Episode 30
30| Mediocre Podcast & A Year of Yapping!| 1 Year Giveaway, ChatGPT Boundaries,& All The Jagged Edges
A year of being a mediocre podcast? Yup, that’s right! Join Kelsie, Monica, and Nicole as they celebrate a milestone. One year of the A Little Bit Bothered Podcast!!! This episode is a blend of humor and exciting news. The hosts reflect on their podcasting journey, share personal health and parenting experiences, and introduce the Bothered Bitch Kit GIVEAWAY!! Dive into discussions about family dynamics and the use of ChatGPT. Plus, a special mention of their new favorite book, All The Jagged Edges, and questioning why it's not all over bookTok.
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A year of being a mediocre podcast. Woo! Go us.
⁓ You you you you will be bothered
Monica (:We are back.
Nicole (:We're your bothered bitches! I'm Nicole.
Monica (:I'm Monica
Kelsie (:And I'm Kelsey.
Monica (:and we still miss Ashley. She'll be back eventually.
Nicole (:Ayo. And we still miss Ashley.
Kelsie (:Yep. Eventually. Eventually
when you guys... Yeah.
Nicole (:Being a big girl, having a real
job.
Monica (:being responsible.
Nicole (:Being an
actual adult, she's adulting for the Gen Zs out there. She's adulting. Yeah, so we love that for her, even though we're like.
Monica (:She's adulting. She's handling big girl responsibilities.
We do.
I just spilled coffee on myself. Love that for me. I know, I know. But it is is a little bit bitter that she's not here because the month of August is a special month for us for a couple of reasons. Kelsey, we're excited for you and welcoming your baby soon, very, soon. But also, we're hitting one year of the podcast.
Nicole (:We have an attitude. good job. Way to start the episode off strong.
Yes, this is one year of us yapping.
Kelsie (:Yep. Yep, yep.
Monica (:Yeah, one year of us being
a little bit bothered on a weekly basis. That's true. At just to share with the world.
Nicole (:I mean, we've been bothering a lot longer than a year, but. Jinx.
Kelsie (:I mean, we even bothered a little bit.
Nicole (:Jinx, jinx, jinx. This is just a year of us putting it out in public. Funny. A year of being a mediocre podcast. Woo! Go us.
Kelsie (:but sharing it with the world.
Monica (:putting it on the internet.
Kelsie (:A year of being a video podcast.
Monica (:But you know what, like wasn't there a statistic that we read like when we first started all of this saying that like most don't make it past like 10 episodes or something like that.
Nicole (:I think it was
20 episodes and I was like, guys, all we have to do is get to 21. That's all we have to do. We have to get to 21. And we did. We got past 21.
Monica (:Yeah.
Yeah,
we're making our way towards 30.
Nicole (:Yeah, pushing 30 episodes, holy crap, that's crazy. It would be more if we didn't take such long breaks in between when we want to, but you know what? All of us are moms, we all have things going on, can't just, we gotta do with what we can.
Monica (:That is crazy.
It's fine. It's life happening. Yeah.
Kelsie (:We were very
consistent for a long time. just, just the holidays just really.
Nicole (:We really were, no for sure. Holidays and then summer and it is what it is.
Monica (:Yeah.
Yeah, was holidays and my mommy makeover surgery that totally threw us. And then we were doing pretty good again. And then summer. So
Nicole (:It is what it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then summer.
Monica (:you know what? I feel like that's okay. Holiday in a summer break. We're okay. We're good. Yeah. So.
Nicole (:I I agree. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah. As much as we want
this not to be a mediocre podcast, we also have shit to do outside of the mediocre podcast. So we just have to, we just have to roll with it. It is what it is. Yeah, it's fine.
Monica (:We do.
It's It's true. We can do it in seasons. It's fine. And so all of you who have
stuck with us for the last year, we love you so very, very much. And I'm excited because for the month of August, we are just going to be celebrating this milestone. And one of the ways is that we have a giveaway, which I am so freaking stoked for one of the things that we are including in there. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Nicole (:Oh, Oh, same, same,
same, same, same, same, same, same, same, same,
Monica (:So if you remember from the last episode, we had mentioned a book called All the Jagged Edges, which Kelsey shared with us, and I freaking love that book. It is so good. It is so good.
Nicole (:dude, it's such a good book. It's so good. ⁓ Definitely a book
I wasn't expecting to be as good as it was.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
⁓ we're putting together a basket, the giveaway is a basket of, you know, basically a bothered bitches kit, you know? ⁓ And, yeah. And one of those things, obviously, is this book because it's the best.
Monica (:Yeah, it's your starter kit.
Nicole (:How to be a bothered bitch. Yep, bothered bitch starter kit.
Good.
Monica (:Well, not only that, but yeah, yeah.
Nicole (:I think it's all of our favorite reads this year, right? It's my favorite read of the year besides Metal Singer. It's my favorite read of the year.
Kelsie (:I didn't read it this
year, but I read it. Like... But it's one of my favorite books of all time. So, yeah.
Monica (:Yeah, fair.
Nicole (:Okay, I mean, yes, it's one of your favorite books though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica (:It is,
but I also feel like it is very fitting to be put into the Bothered Bitch starter hit because the main character, Harper, absolutely would be a bothered bitch with us.
Nicole (:yeah.
Our girl.
There was your fly. She would
absolutely have been a bothered bitch. She is like queen of all bothered bitches and I just fucking love her. I was reading and I was texting Kelsey like, I think Harper's my new favorite FMC. Like I think she is the most relatable FMC that I've read in a long time. ⁓
Monica (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kelsie (:And doesn't like, infuriate
you. Like, I'm very often annoyed with female main characters.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah, yes,
agree, agree, agree, Horrible, horrible choices. ⁓ Terrible.
Monica (:mean, she makes some choices that are kind of annoying, but at the same
time, like, you know, you're in it with her. They are, yeah. And I think that for the place in her life that she's at, they make sense. I can understand them. ⁓ And so it's fine. But yeah, she's a very like relatable character. You very much can connect with her and just...
Nicole (:Also, but I feel like a lot of the choices are relatable. Yeah, but I, yeah, and I can feel like they're relatable choices, so.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Monica (:Like she seems like a very real person, you know? ⁓ But yeah, we don't want to share too much about the book because it's one of those books that it's best to go in blind and just experience it. ⁓ But it is a very fun, interesting, spicy kind of read.
Nicole (:Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
No, you have to go in blind.
it's a fun time. It's such a fun time. Yeah, spicy.
Would you say that the MMC is a bit of a bully? Is this qualified as bully romance? Because I think he is and I love it though. I'm not mad about it. I like it a little bit when they're mean. Because he's mean.
Kelsie (:I that like
Monica (:So,
yes and no.
Kelsie (:this I want to say that like this is definitely not I would not even classify this because like we said spicy but like this is not one of those books where it makes up the plot like the plot is a plot and you really get like just like kind of just some back and forth tension through a banter throughout the book but you really like it's not like it's it's just
Nicole (:No, no, no, no, the plot's plotting, it's plotting.
Monica (:No.
The banter, the banter is my favorite.
Nicole (:Yeah, I don't know. I still think he's mean.
Monica (:Yeah,
Kelsie (:It's just good. It's not like crazy.
Monica (:he is mean, but it
Nicole (:It's... He's mean.
It's not like enemies to lovers type stuff. And I guess he's not really even like a bully, but he's mean to her and I like that.
Kelsie (:No, but it's not necessarily right.
Monica (:No.
He is mean, but it gives such good banter. Yeah.
Kelsie (:He's just a hard ass in general, I think.
Nicole (:Yeah,
yeah, I can't, but I like it when the fictional men are mean. My real life husband would never, but fictional men, yes. Be mean, please. I'm okay with that.
Monica (:Pfft
Kelsie (:You
Monica (:my god.
Nicole. Nicole. Yes. So
anyhow, we are, we are including it in the gift basket. So whoever ends up winning it, we hope that you love this book as much as we do, because it's a book that we don't understand why it's not all over TikTok and like book talk world. It absolutely needs to be. It should be all the jagged edges needs to be added to everybody's TBR immediately.
Nicole (:Seriously. Seriously.
definitely add it to your TBRs if you, you know, enjoy reading, if you don't have too much of a full TBR already. Or you know what, maybe just ditch your entire TBR and read it. Move it right to the top because it's, I really don't understand. No, no, it is part of a series though, so.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
No, moving on up.
Kelsie (:Dump it to the top. It's fine.
We're not asking you to read an eight book series, just bump this one up to the top.
Monica (:Yes.
Kelsie (:I'm not saying it's not a
series, it does have a second book coming, but it's not... it's not...
Nicole (:No, it does have a second book coming. It's
not released yet, I'm so sorry. I hate to do this to everybody.
Kelsie (:It's not 500
book, it's not 500 page book with eight other books behind it is what I'm saying. So just read it.
Monica (:Right.
Nicole (:Correct, correct, correct, correct, correct. But also
it flies by, okay? I read it on my Kindle, so I don't actually know how thick this book is, but it flies by. by the end of it, I was like, wait, no, like no, no, I need more. What do you mean it's over? Excuse me, excuse me. What do mean it's over? So.
Monica (:It does, yeah.
Kelsie (:I'm
Monica (:Hmm.
Yeah, it's one of
those books that I immediately went to TikTok and said exactly that and the author, ⁓ am I saying her name right, Talara Tate? I hate Ms. Brown some people's names. So yeah, so she responded, second book's coming, but I was like, we need this now. Yeah. Yes, it's fine. It's fine.
Nicole (:Yeah, Talara, yeah. Talara Tate, yep.
I needed it yesterday.
Kelsie (:We had a baby. Give us some time.
Nicole (:I guess
you brought life into the world. I guess fine. Kelsey's fly is dive bombing her.
Monica (:So one of our top books. my gosh, that
Kelsie (:My flies.
Monica (:fly like.
Kelsie (:I actually made it through a good portion of the summer without... flies until like this past week is just like a fly explosion.
Nicole (:without flies.
Kelsie (:Anywho, all that's aside is keep your eyes peeled on social media for a chance to win our Bothered Bitch Kit. Our kit made for the bitches.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Yeah, we still to work out the kinks on
how to enter. We haven't decided exactly on what we're going to be doing for like entering and how and all that stuff. But we're still curating. We're still putting together the bitch kit. Okay.
Monica (:Yes.
Nicole (:So keep your eyes peeled ⁓ and help us celebrate one year and you know to celebrate one year help us not be a mediocre podcast and share the shit with your friends. Go on YouTube, go on TikTok, go on all the places, hit like, hit share, do all the things. Okay, thanks.
Monica (:real.
Kelsie (:Yeah,
our giveaways could be even more badassery if you take it to the next level with us, you know.
Monica (:For real.
Nicole (:Take it to the next
level, come on y'all. Get the word out that we're cool.
Monica (:I know. We need those like 43,000 views from our one TikTok that blew up to like help us.
Nicole (:our one TikTok.
Kelsie (:You know how...
Nicole (:We need all those people that viewed it to follow. If you were one of them, make sure you follow.
Monica (:Right? ⁓
Nicole (:⁓ Jesus, okay, anyway, so what are we talking about today?
Kelsie (:That's
Monica (:⁓ I have a very interesting
Am I the Asshole? It actually became a popular one that it showed up in people, or at least online it did. Yeah. And I think it's just a very interesting one because it has to do with chat GBT and we talk about chat GBT all the time. I mean, if you've been here, if you're an OG listener, like we call chat GBT Chad.
Nicole (:I love these.
shut up.
⁓
trying to think of I've heard it.
Monica (:Like, Chad is an honorary member of the podcast. We use it all the time.
Kelsie (:I actually have to remind myself when I'm talking
to other people that not everyone calls him Chad. So like I have to like fix myself.
Monica (:I know, I do too. Actually,
But this is an interesting kind of ⁓ story. think it just, it makes you wonder where are our boundaries with like how we use chat GBT? So I'm gonna give the summary.
Nicole (:It does scare me.
Listen, people don't have boundaries
period anymore.
Monica (:That's true.
That's Okay, so basically here's the summary of this story is that there was a wedding and the night before the wedding, ⁓ the groom's dad approached the sister of the groom. So 16 year old sister, he approaches her and is like, I need to write my speech still. I don't know what to do. Like, you know,
Kelsie (:It's me, I'm people. Okay, sorry.
Monica (:I'm not very sentimental. And I guess the dad and the groom already had kind of a strained relationship anyways. And so she was like, well, why don't you just use chat GBT to help you kind of like figure it out. And so she helped him like set it up, did all the things. Well, the next morning he showed it to her and had like a full speech from chat GBT. And she was like, okay, but you know,
Nicole (:Help!
LOL
Monica (:like
make it your own kind of thing. And so she like didn't, she says that she didn't really like think anything of it. She thought that like he wouldn't use it like verbatim kind of thing just to help. Well, the wedding happens, the speech happens. It's this beautiful speech. And apparently afterwards, the groom approached the sister and was like, wow, like, do you think that like dad meant all of those things that he said? And so she felt obligated and was like,
Nicole (:to say
something.
Monica (:Well, know, chat GBT helped him
write it. Like that was from chat GBT. And so she had wrote that like she could see the reaction on his face and like he was just like, ⁓ and walked away. Well, she thought that was kind of the end of it until the next morning when she started getting all these text messages from her mom ⁓ and family and like everybody just freaking out and being mad that she ruined.
Nicole (:no.
Monica (:the night for her brother and for like dad and brother. So it's just kind of an interesting one because, know, they weren't his words, but like, did he mean them? And...
Nicole (:⁓ man, that's...
Kelsie (:But, I mean, we
all know how chat works, kind of. I mean, you can create a very personal speech with all of your opinions, but have Chad write it. so, I mean...
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Right, right, right, right, right, right.
Monica (:Yeah.
But I don't know because now I'm kind of curious of like testing that out because I think that literally if you were to go into Jatchi BT and say, Hey, my son's wedding is tomorrow and I need a speech. Can you write a speech for me? I think it would.
Nicole (:So yeah, maybe.
Kelsie (:But my chat,
I mean, he would, but like, I don't know, my experience with Chad is that he always asks me follow on questions. Like, you know, how do you like, how do you feel about this? Like, yeah, he like asks follow on questions to form like a better picture of what you're wanting from him. So I feel like maybe her, I feel like I'm more on.
Nicole (:follow up questions, yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
That's true.
Nicole (:You do have to give some information, I think, so.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:everyone else's side a little bit. I understand what she was like, feeling. But if she wasn't actually there witnessing the chat GPT conversation, then she doesn't know how much of it was like inspired by his personal feelings for his son. Because I could type in this is how I feel about my husband. I like this and this and this and this and this about him. But I just don't know how to put it into
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
That's true.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:words for a speech and then it's like, this speech is made out of all my feelings, but it's just put into a speech format by chat, you know?
Nicole (:Words. Yeah.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Nicole (:More, yeah, yeah,
Monica (:Yeah,
that's true.
Nicole (:yeah, you know.
It's hard. So the question is, is she the asshole? I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't necessarily say that she's an asshole because I feel like, yeah, I do feel like her intentions were good, especially if she knows that like, like obviously it was said that the father and the son kind of have a strained relationship. So maybe, you know, she was in that moment, maybe she was really just looking out for her brother. Like, yeah, like he said some of those things, but I wouldn't.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:I don't think she's an asshole. I think her intentions were good.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:I wouldn't get too excited type kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I think she probably was thinking about her brother's feelings over her father's feelings at that point. Is that a sibling? You know what I mean? Because like if the dad's mad, yeah, if the dad is mad that like she told him and she's just sitting there like, but you did use it. Like, I don't understand. for saying it like.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:I mean, really don't know enough about their...
Well, sounds like everybody's mad, though.
how big of a piece of shit
is this stat? and like... and how much is this? because this is-
Nicole (:Right, that's my question. Like what, you know, we need a little bit more.
Monica (:Right. Well, and I do,
I do feel kind of bad for the dad too, because like she had wrote that he had approached her and was just like, I'm just not good with words. And like, I get it too, because it's, you know, not everybody likes to do public speaking and not everybody is good at that. Right. And so it's already nerve wracking as it is. And I think the other side of it that I just, I feel for the dad is that
Nicole (:Yeah.
No, for sure. Yeah.
Monica (:The fact that he was thinking about it and wanted it to be a good speech. Yeah, like exactly. It was important to him.
Nicole (:and was that important, yeah. Because obviously it was important to him. He went to
her and was like, I need help. She was the one that suggested chat cheapy tea. So.
Monica (:Right. And
like helped him log in and helped him do everything. And like she even said like, you know, as he was reading the speech, people were crying and even my brother looked really emotional, like he was actually touched and he hugged dad afterwards. So it's like whatever the speech was, must have been a good one.
Nicole (:Yeah.
⁓
You know what? I'm gonna change my mind. You were a little bit an asshole. You should have just let them have their moment. You're like, if they have a strained relationship and you know that, and your brother took what he said and was like, maybe he was ready to like move past whatever the strain was after that speech because he felt like he meant it. You should have just let him have his moment. You should have just said, yeah, I do think dad felt like that. I do think so. Like, you're kind of an asshole.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Right.
Kelsie (:Yeah, I mean, if this seemed like a monumental, if this seemed like a monumental lie
Monica (:Right, because this was the question.
Kelsie (:that was going to sway him into doing something that would be bad for him, then I think that would be a different story. But like, if it's literally just, yeah, I think it could have been left alone.
Monica (:right?
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah, then okay, right. Yeah.
If this was gonna better their relationship.
Monica (:Yeah, well, and just because
he didn't come up with the words doesn't mean he didn't mean the words, you know? And like it said, so later that evening after a few drinks and while things were winding down, my brother found me and said, I didn't expect dad to say all that. Do you think he meant it? And like that just breaks my heart because weddings are so emotional anyways. And so sometimes those meaningful moments can happen and they can come out in those events. And so
Nicole (:Doesn't mean he didn't mean them. Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:But
also, I don't know, maybe it just depends on your dad, but a lot of dads, a lot of men are just more closed off. And even if they feel those things, they're not necessarily... So Chad, like, curating a speech for him, which very well could have been all his feelings. We don't know what Chad and him discussed, but...
Nicole (:Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. They might never ever say them.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. ⁓
Nicole (:Hmm.
Yeah, we don't know. We don't know how much info he gave Chad, but...
Monica (:Right. Well, and
she says her.
Kelsie (:He just could have
given them the nerve because it was written for him and he got to just read it and it just gave him the nerve that he... Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could have just helped him give him that little boost
that he needed to get it all out there in the open, right? So like, this was his moment to have a meaningful moment with his son and he...
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:He took tools and he used them to have that and I think that's okay. ⁓ I do think she probably should have just let it go, like not had said anything. I don't know.
Monica (:Yeah. I think.
Yeah, probably not. Just let
them have their moment.
Kelsie (:think it's like
the slightest, this is why I say we don't know enough about their family dynamics because I think it's almost like the slightest bit weird that she felt a moral obligation to tell him this, like this was some really big major lie. don't...
Nicole (:that she had to say, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Because I feel like, okay, so if let's remove chat GPT and let's say that he went to her and she helped him compose it. If the brother then went up to her and said, do you think Dad meant all that those things? Obviously, she would just be able to say, yeah, because he told her the feelings and she helped him write the essay. You know what mean? So like, I think if we take the the chat GPT aspect away from it, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
Kelsie (:Mm-hmm.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Well, and I have a little bit more.
Okay. So I have a little bit more as far as like the relationship because I just gave you guys a summary. So she had wrote my brother and dad have always had a tense relationship. They're civil but there's a lot of unspoken resentment there. My brother always felt like dad wasn't emotionally available growing up always worked too much miss birthdays, etc. Dad on the other hand insists he did his best and doesn't believe in dredging up the past you get the picture. So it's like
Nicole (:Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Monica (:I can see why for the brother having such a sentimental speech probably took him by surprise and meant so much because that's what he's been wanting from his dad. And so he finally gets it. And then it's like her response to him was like, well, maybe he meant it, but he used chat GBT.
Nicole (:why it was so important. Yeah.
Great.
That's so aggravating. Because it shouldn't take away the value there, I don't think. exactly, you have to look at that. No, no, no, that's not it.
Monica (:I know and it's-
Kelsie (:He cared enough to try, so... I'm not excusing emotionally unavailable men, but I think that's not-
Monica (:I know.
Right.
Kelsie (:that's very common for that generation. ⁓ This father he described is like, probably four out of five fathers of that generation, so it's just like-
Monica (:Right.
Nicole (:It is. You also have to understand too.
mean, even
now, like I think, you know, Justin has gone a lot.
Kelsie (:think maybe we don't talk about our parents'
relationships enough because if you think that that's just like only your relationship with your dad, like maybe you'd take some comfort in knowing that like that's a fairly common like father-child like problem.
Nicole (:It's not.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:just now with this generation of men that are men, are kind of breaking the barrier of emotional maturity and being. So I think that our dads are products of their dads and masculinity and not being super like, not that all dads are like that or not, just not.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Monica (:They really are.
Nicole (:I agree.
Monica (:absolutely.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kelsie (:I'm not defending super bad dad behavior, but it's just, I think we just, sometimes you...
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Well, there's a difference between being a
bad dad and then being a dad that was doing their best. Like it seems like this guy was doing.
Kelsie (:And dads that just
like weren't raised in a home where you like are constantly like searing your feelings. Like that's okay. yeah, yeah. Emotional, yeah.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's okay.
Monica (:Mm-hmm. Yeah, like they literally might not know how to share their feelings. So yeah, I think
Nicole (:Yeah, right.
Monica (:to that point, it's like if he needed to utilize a tool to help him come up with that language, I don't think that I could fault him for that, but I do understand why it could potentially be hurtful to like hear it. But the other part of that though is then it's just kind of like the question across the board is like,
Nicole (:Mm-mm.
Monica (:they're aligned with chat GBT of like, where too much is too much, right? Because it's like those memes that you see too of like, know, millennials like graduated college without having to use chat GBT. Like we had to write all of our papers from scratch. But at the same time, it's like, it's a tool that's available to college students. Why wouldn't they use it? You know?
Nicole (:Hmm.
Yeah,
yeah, that's how I feel about it. It's a tool, you know, sometimes you just can't get the words out.
Kelsie (:I think just like anything, something
can be taken too far. But I think that like it's very case by case basis
Nicole (:Yeah.
No, it was.
Monica (:the other perspective
is like, had he not done that, and he wrote a speech and maybe it truly would have been the best that he knew how, like he could have read that and would that have been upsetting because it felt like it wasn't enough? Or is it better that he went and used a tool to have a heartfelt speech to make sure that the moment and like the event and the evening was meaningful? Like
Nicole (:Yes, right, yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah, I mean, was he
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:did he not now is he just like in a lose lose situation where if he had written it, it would have been a letdown, but then he got help and now she like threw him under the bus. ⁓
Monica (:Kind of he kind of is
Nicole (:Now everybody's mad.
Yeah. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah, I can kind of understand the family being mad, especially because with weddings, it's just like, you just want the bride and groom to have a good evening. You just have to let it go.
Kelsie (:Sometimes you just gotta leave shit alone.
Nicole (:to be happy.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Nicole (:I agree. you just, like, I just don't think, I think probably in her brain she was doing the best that she could for her brother, but it just.
Kelsie (:I think, like I said, if it was deceitful
Monica (:Well.
Kelsie (:and it was going to have actual repercussions, then yes. But I don't know that this situation was... The only repercussion is that now people's feelings are hurt.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Doesn't sound like it.
Yeah.
Monica (:Right.
my last thought on it is like, just feel like so many times with weddings, like you miss the point that it's just about the bride and the groom, right? And so it's like to make an issue out of this relationship between the father and the son, like, yes, that's important, but that's not the whole point of the day to begin with. So like, can we just let it be? Let it be. Let him have his night. Let him be a happy groom.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
He literally too, as the,
yeah, and as the father, he could have been like, I'm not giving a speech, I'm not sentimental, and could have just ended it at that, but he literally did not,
Monica (:Right?
Nicole (:all that to say, I personally don't, I personally do think she's the asshole. I don't think the dad is the asshole in this situation. A little bit, not crazy.
Monica (:Yeah, I kinda think that she is a little bit. I mean... ⁓
Kelsie (:Without more information, think
she, yeah, no, she's not like, and maybe not even, with good intentions, she's still the asshole.
Monica (:Yeah. Although I will say
Nicole (:Yeah.
okay? What else do we have? I feel like we've been talking about this wedding for a long time. We don't even know these people.
Monica (:Yeah,
So it's been a while since we've given life updates.
Nicole (:Yeah, it has been a while.
Kelsie (:Welcome to our
favorite segment. Actually, I don't know if it's our favorite, but it's what we do.
Nicole (:That's what we
just started doing WT. How do we even get F? WTF. For those that don't know, Our win, our trigger, and our FML or funny as fuck, right? Okay.
Kelsie (:WTF
Monica (:WTF
Our win
Yes. Yes.
Nicole (:So my win was, and maybe it's a little bit of an FML too, because over the weekend, I had a charge on my card go through. And so I have my bank set up. I watch my bank like a hawk. I know usually when everything is coming out, I'm very ⁓ on top of it. And I also have a text message.
Monica (:Okay.
Nicole (:system through my bank that they tell me when it gets to certain amount and I go in and I make sure like everything is settled, right? Well, I got that text message for the alert of like a lower balance on my account. I went in to go ⁓ move stuff from our savings to our like bill pay account basically is what it is.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:I guess like the text message system was kind of delayed because by the time I already got in there, something had gone through, a charge I wasn't even expecting. And it was like a yearly charge, not a monthly charge. So like I forgot about it, you know? So anyway, I had gotten a like privileged pay, like, you know, $35 charge or whatever. And I was like, crap, darn it. So I went to go in the day it happened to see if like maybe they could reverse the charge or like,
Monica (:the worst.
Mmm.
Nicole (:because I have it set up to where usually that shouldn't happen. Like I shouldn't be getting these ⁓ privilege pay things. And I got there too late on Saturday. They closed. I was like, shit. So I went in there yesterday and I was expecting just to get the one charge like reversed
And I walked out of there not with just one charge reversed, with like any overdraft charge that I've been charged for an entire year reversed. And I was not expecting that. And I was like, ⁓ holy shit, thank you. So, you know, it's always nice when like you get money when you're not expecting money. So that's a win.
Monica (:That's amazing.
Kelsie (:You
Monica (:Amazing.
Kelsie (:Thank you.
Monica (:Well, especially because it's
like such a rarity dealing with a bank to have them do something like that. Yeah.
Kelsie (:Especially kids. Tell them give you money. Give
Nicole (:Yeah, to have a good experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there was literally no pushback. He did not say, well, you didn't have enough in your head. You know, like there was no pushback. He just said, okay, here you go, reverse. And there wasn't even a delay. I literally checked my account sitting at the desk with him still on my phone and it was all there. I was like, whoa, like, okay. Thanks.
Kelsie (:you money.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:Well they should just give it back because I
overdraft these are just a scam.
Nicole (:They literally are scam like that is money obviously I've paid because once my once I'm in the hole obviously I have to put money in it to like, you know
Kelsie (:Yeah, but the bank takes your money
and uses it moves it all around, but then all of sudden when you...
Nicole (:They're a scam.
Yeah, when I need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so, so no, so they were great. Right. So they were great. And it was just, that was nice. I was like, great. I was not expecting to walk out of there with more money than there was initially in my head. was, I was expecting one, maybe two charges reversed. And I got more than that, which I was like, cool. Like, awesome. Thank you. You know, and I,
Monica (:Mm-hmm. Wouldn't you do it?
That's amazing.
Nicole (:I don't know what my trigger is. I don't know what my fuck my life is. guess my fuck my life is that I wasn't paying enough attention and my bank account did go negative, but it's fine. But that's other thing is like we had the money, it's just in a different account. This is why I watch it, it's so crazy. I know. I have it, it's just not over there because I need to make sure like I'm paying attention, you know?
Monica (:Right? That's even more infuriating when you're like, it's not even that I don't have the money. It's there.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Monica (:my gosh.
Nicole (:Okay, I'm gonna try to be really kind of vague about this because I can't really say too much, but I'm just know I'm realizing in my 30s You cannot trust people you think that you trust like not even that I just I am so I am so Disappointed I am yes, there's a lot I am disappointed. That's what I am. I'm disappointed by like certain people
Monica (:just can't assume.
Kelsie (:It's just a let down when someone lets you down that you were put up.
Monica (:Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:in my life right now. And I'm just, you you have expectations, especially when you take the time to explain what those expectations are. And then it's not ⁓ respected. So I just feel like a super...
Monica (:Yeah.
Right.
Kelsie (:You were let down. You believed in somebody and they let you down.
Nicole (:yeah, just disappointed. I was let down and I just... I... yeah, yeah,
I put trust in somebody for them to just turn around and like, not give a shit!
Kelsie (:And you were in a- in-
And in a situation where you were truly vulnerable to their... Yeah, to- Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:right, because I couldn't do anything about it. Yeah. I could not
like change the circumstance at all. So yeah. So I'm just realizing that like, it's hard. It's really hard to put your trust into people or put your expectations onto somebody, I guess. And then just have them completely, you know, and it would be one thing if it was like something minor, but it was pretty kind of major. So it's like, wow, I really just can't, I can't like trust you at all. And I did.
Monica (:Mm-hmm. It's so frustrating.
Yeah.
Nicole (:Previously and so thank you for for showing me who you really are and that bothers me It's like but I'm also not stupid you showed me how you are you showed me what you you know your true colors So I won't be trusting that again. That's another that's what I'm learning to you like when somebody shows you Believe it the first time not the third time That's my big life lesson when somebody shows you who they are believe them the first time
Monica (:understandable though.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nicole (:because it's only going to come to get you later.
Monica (:That sucks though, like if that isn't like the life lesson of the century though, right? It's just that.
Nicole (:Yeah.
No, really. Yeah. So that's
otherwise I feel like life is pretty good. ⁓
Kelsie (:that whole situation
was a WTF so...
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:That entire
situation was, yeah, an actual WTF,
Monica (:OK, so I feel like my win and my FML are hand in hand. Right? ⁓ the effect of my life ⁓ is just my issues with my glucose. And so I recently got a glucose monitor because I've known that my glucose and insulin were too high. ⁓
Kelsie (:I see a trend.
Nicole (:Yeah, let's see. Yep, there's
a trend happening. There is a trend happening.
Monica (:But like seeing it in a lab like once is totally different from being able to see it all day long. so, right, like I I apologize because you guys are like my like lifetime, like it's doing this. Like the first like 48 hours that I had it, I like every like a bar is like, you guys, it's doing this.
Nicole (:on the regular, yeah.
No, I love it. No, really, I love it. It is.
Kelsie (:It's very fascinating truly.
Nicole (:We were getting screenshots on screenshots. It was great. I love it.
Monica (:Like, I ate this and it's like...
But I
love you guys for just embracing my crazy-
Kelsie (:Did you already explain, did
we explain before exactly what it is you're doing?
Monica (:So, okay, yeah, so I have a glucose monitor, so basically it gives you a real time snapshot of what your glucose is doing and how it's fluctuating and whatnot. ⁓
Kelsie (:And you can in fact
have crazy glucose without being diabetic. So that's what she's discovering.
Monica (:Yes, so I'm not diabetic,
Nicole (:Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Monica (:but I have been like standing right at the line of being pre-diabetic. So my doctor was basically like, yeah, like just count yourself as pre-diabetic. Like you need to start taking steps otherwise like you're gonna be full blown pre-diabetic. ⁓ And then also insulin resistant. And so now that I have the monitor and can watch it, it basically just confirms that because my average like
Nicole (:Pre. ⁓
Monica (:Premial glucose has been hanging out at like 125 which is not great because you want to be under 99 And so that's pre-diabetic territory. So I will say when you're able to see it in real time like that it scares the shit out of you like it's one thing to have a lab result and be like
Nicole (:⁓ Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Monica (:You know, it's not great. You should do something about it. Right. And I've had multiple things of like different doctors who were like, no, like you need to do something about it. ⁓ and you hear that and it's not that I haven't taken it seriously. Like you guys know that I have, but like, man, seeing it in real time is motivating. Yeah.
Kelsie (:Well, it's kind of just like this abstract concept in your head.
And like I think very few people truly understand how your glucose goes up and down, how it works with a meal. Like you get a, my mother-in-law is diabetic. So it's like a crash course that we've been getting since she's been diabetic. But like a lot of people just, it's very an abstract concept in your mind. So to see it, you have it just on your phone constantly like showing you.
Nicole (:Yep, because you don't see it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Right, well
Nicole (:That's pretty
cool.
Monica (:the wild thing too, because your glucose is supposed to fluctuate, it's supposed to increase, but the problem is that when you have glucose, your body's supposed to release insulin and that helps get the glucose into the cells and into the muscles to give you energy, right? But like when you become insulin resistant, it basically is when the cells are like, yeah, we're not listening anymore, so they're not taking in the glucose. And so now you have too much in your bloodstream. That's...
Nicole (:Yeah.
Monica (:If I'm getting it wrong and you're a doctor, correct me, but like that's my understanding. Right. so spiking out of range, which, you know, range is like, goes up to one 40. Okay. But when I ate Burger King, I went from one 25 to like two 37, which is insane. And so then when you like see that kind of a number and you know that like, okay, I don't eat fast food all the time, but often enough.
Nicole (:crazy.
Monica (:to know that like that's what my blood sugars have been doing, like my glucose has been doing.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Kelsie (:And to stay,
because you were kind of staying up there once you got up there, weren't you? Because your body is going to spike, but it's supposed to come back down. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah, it took me hours, hours to come down from that. Yeah,
Nicole (:No.
Monica (:yeah, it's supposed to come back down, but it shouldn't take as long as it did. And that was even after like I walked and like tried to do stuff. just, took hours to come down from eating like processed fast food like that. So that's my FML. It's the reality of what that is. And now obviously like everybody's would be different. Anybody who has glucose monitor, like would see something different, but to be able to
Kelsie (:a long time.
Nicole (:That's crazy.
think more people
Monica (:I
Nicole (:should get a glucose monitor. Like-
Monica (:fully stand on that now, being in a culture where fast food and processed foods are so prevalent. Statistically, non-alcoholic fatty liver and insulin resistance are more common than I think most people realize. When you have your glucose being off like that, it creates so much inflammation and stored fat and all of these really significant health issues that can come later on down the road.
Nicole (:Yep.
Even if...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Monica (:Honestly, I'm not an expert in it. I'm just like learning all of this along the way, but it's scary. Like when you really see like the picture in front of you, it's like, no shit. No wonder I feel awful. No wonder I'm having trouble losing weight. No wonder I feel so inflamed. And that's when the crazy part. So here's my win is that for the last two weeks, I've been really, really diligent about eating foods that don't spike my blood sugars. And like, if I do, I'm making sure that I'm walking afterwards and like doing some kind of like movement to like bring them down.
Nicole (:Right.
Monica (:And in the last two weeks, I already feel less puffy. Like I haven't necessarily lost weight, but I feel and like when I look in the mirror, I feel like I can see a difference. Like I'm less puffy. ⁓ And my numbers are now hanging out in like the eighties, like my pre meal. So that's huge, huge win because that's where I need to be. So.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Hell yeah.
Yeah, that's great.
Monica (:It gives me some hope that like, okay, now I feel like I have this like missing piece to like really see how to manage my food. Because the thing is like, just feel like I've been blind going at it where I'm like, I feel like I'm eating pretty healthy, but I don't really know how my body's reacting to it. And now I can see it and like make the changes and tweaks to it. yeah. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like everybody who's struggling in that way.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
Kelsie (:And I think just our concepts of healthy is also
just like kind of warped anyways.
Monica (:Right.
Nicole (:Yeah, especially
Monica (:Well.
Nicole (:here in the States. feel like, you know, we've got a lot of stuff that goes into our food that like other countries don't let go into their food. So we have to be more diligent as individuals. We can't just trust our food.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Absolutely.
Kelsie (:But even generally,
there are healthy foods that are more likely to spike your glucose. So it's just like as a whole, we just don't necessarily aren't super educated.
Nicole (:For sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica (:Well, and so I've been using a lot of resources from the glucose goddess and she's got a really interesting book. And I think what I love about her approach and how she explains everything is that it's not about being restrictive and saying like, can't ever have ice cream anymore. You can't ever have bread anymore. It's more about what are you doing to support your body in processing that sugar because sugar is sugar, right?
Nicole (:Correct.
Mm-hmm. Yeah,
yeah.
Monica (:⁓
and like, what's the order that you're eating it? Because if you're not eating like some vegetables and fiber first, like you're not setting your body up for success to be able to process the sugars that can come later in your meal. Or like if you're not walking afterwards and it's, think what's so crazy to me is there's so many things that you hear. Like you should walk after your, after you eat, make sure you stay hydrated. Like all these things where it's like, we hear it a million times of like, yeah, it's good. Okay. I got it.
Nicole (:Mm.
Yes.
Right. Yeah.
Monica (:but then to like see it in the app of like, okay, I just spiked and I'm gonna go take a walk and now it's coming back down. It's like, ⁓ okay, that actually did work. That actually was helpful.
Nicole (:See ya. Live action.
Yeah, yeah.
Kelsie (:think that is
like, actually what's great about that, that you're using it, is that it's like a reward. When you're just, when you just have all these things that you're supposed to do to be healthy, but you don't actually, like, there's no instant result to it. But you watching it on your screen is giving an instant gratification. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah. It is. It is.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah, it's like a reward!
Monica (:Yes. Right, like I'm getting this like, yes.
Nicole (:Yeah, and honestly...
It's the instant
gratification. Yes, I was going to say we love instant gratification right now, okay? As humans.
Monica (:Yes. Well, especially because, for real, but especially because it's like on any health journey, like you hear a million times of like, trust the process, trust the process, because you have to like stick with something for a couple of weeks before you see the change. And I get that, like, I understand why.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica (:But that is so hard to stay motivated when you're like, like, is it actually working? Like, is this actually doing anything? And so being able to like actually see it is so satisfying. So I am loving, I'm loving it. And so that is my FML and my win. ⁓ And my trigger, just being a mom.
Nicole (:Yeah. Yeah.
That's so cool. Yeah.
What are you triggered by?
You know, I was actually gonna say last episode, like, we, all of us collectively, think as a whole have had some difficult mom times this summer, I think. So we've gone through some shit, I feel like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've all, we've all crashed out, I think. Yep.
Monica (:Well, mean, I had, right? I mean, I had a crash out last week, like literally in the group chat, crying.
Like just, and not because of like anything. And I mean, it was a really, really hard parenting week and it's just the challenges of parenting very busy brains and just constantly evaluating how to handle that. And like,
Nicole (:Yes.
Kelsie (:Sorry.
Nicole (:Right.
Mm-hmm.
Monica (:There's just so many emotions to that. And I think, I don't know, it challenges you in ways you don't even know are possible. And you feel like shit, and you feel like you're failing, and you feel like, literally last week I just felt like I was suffocating. And there just wasn't an immediate solution. And then on top of that, yeah.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's the other hard thing is we sometimes
we just can't accept that there isn't an immediate solution and we don't like that. We want there to be an immediate solution and unfortunately there's not for certain things.
Monica (:Yeah.
Yeah, and then on top of that,
you're struggling, right? So you're in the moment, you're struggling and you're just hanging on for dear life. And then you still have to parent with that. And so then you have to still parent and deal with the overstimulation and the behaviors and the needs and all of the things while you're struggling and on the floor, basically. And it's just...
Nicole (:Barely.
Mm.
You
Yeah, yeah.
Monica (:It's so freaking hard. It's just, it's so hard. And it just is what it is. Like it's, it's not like, it's not like my kids were doing anything exceptionally different from kids being kids. I mean, obviously there's like the behaviors and stuff that we're dealing with and that we're having to pursue like some evaluations for one of my sons because he's very likely ADHD. And like, that's fine. Like he's, is who he is. Like, but it's also the reality of that is a
Nicole (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Monica (:really really hard journey that makes you question yourself every step of the way and just feel like shit and it sucks.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Yep,
Monica (:But it triggers that feeling of helplessness and I don't know what to do and I love this child so much that I would do anything to figure out what the solution is but the solution just isn't there and it's just, it's so overwhelming.
Nicole (:Yeah. Yep.
Kelsie (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:It's terrifying because you
are dealing with that. Like I said earlier, we're all just living this life for the first time. You're literally dealing with it for the first time ever. then you have to like also keep going with life. And you don't know how to keep going with life because you've never done this before. So.
Monica (:Yeah.
Right? Well, and yeah. Right? Well,
Nicole (:Uh-uh.
Monica (:and like, as moms, I mean, and dads too, right? Because my husband's not like he's experienced in this too, right? But like, we're human, like we are people first, right? And so we are people experiencing like these challenges with our child, but then like also being a mom. So you're like,
Nicole (:Parents, as parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica (:having this experience as a person where you're like, wow, this is really fucking hard and I wanna cry and like just like collapse on the floor, right? But then you also know that your role as a mom and so you have to like step into that too and be strong for them. Meanwhile, they're also having their own experience side by side and like this is where it gets so complicated like, and it's kind of this like mind fuck in a way of like, how am I supposed to feel? How am I allowed to feel? Who am I supposed to be? Like, how do I show up in this moment? And I just feel like I'm gonna fail no matter what.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah.
Yeah,
Kelsie (:Well,
and society, especially for like parents who are parent, this is, mean, I guess any parent, there's societal pressures, but parents who are parenting neurodivergent children have a different, you're supposed to like affirm your kid, not do anything that would like, make them feel different or wrong or like, but also society is not the one raising your kid. And like, there's
Nicole (:right.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Hmm.
That right.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:It's
not easy. Like sometimes the way they, everyone thinks you should handle something is just like, it's not working. Like it's just a very complex situation and it's just, just like.
Nicole (:Mm-mm.
Monica (:Yeah.
It's so complex. And so I just, think for anyone who is also going through it, one, I feel for you because it can feel so isolating. And I know that was one thing I had shared with you guys too is like, you know, if we would have rewound like a few years ago, I had felt so isolated and I can't express just like how grateful I am for our group chat because.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Monica (:being able to just like process it out loud. And there wasn't anything that like, there was no solution for you guys to give me, right? But it was just allowing me to like cry and vent about it and like, you know, hear it like, yep, me too. Like I get it. Like it's, it makes such a huge difference. Yeah.
Nicole (:No.
Mm-hmm.
Also to knowing that we wouldn't judge anything. We weren't
going to judge you for feeling like you couldn't do anything. We weren't going to judge any decision or what the situation was or what you ended up coming to as a solution. We weren't going to judge any part of the day. I think that is really nice as a parent to have.
Kelsie (:or judge what happened either, like, yeah.
Monica (:Right.
Yeah.
It makes a difference, yeah. Yes,
well and so I think with that, like if you are in similar shoes as I am, like being vulnerable helps, even though it sucks and it's awful at times. But if you're on the other end of it where you have a friend who has a child who is probably neurodivergent or just struggling, like you have the chance to be like the friend who's listening non-judgmentally and like,
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Monica (:Ask those questions. Yeah, but like ask those questions. Like how are you doing really? Like how are you handling this really? And like don't feel responsible for giving them a solution. Just let them know that like you see them and hear them and.
Kelsie (:and you don't have to offer advice.
Nicole (:Nope.
Yeah, yeah.
⁓ Just let them unload if ⁓
Kelsie (:90 %
of the time when I need to talk about my kid, my son is autistic, when I need to talk about something we're experiencing, I don't want a solution. And that's something that a lot of people in my family really struggle with when I'm trying to share about something is that they want to give me a solution. I don't want to, like if there was a solution, trust me, I would have found it. I just need to share my struggles. And so like.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah. Like we would have found it already.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:you could
be that friend for somebody to just if you don't have anybody to talk to and you're listening to this you could always message the page and vent and we will be your I know that people say I know we say that and like you think they don't mean it I a hundred percent mean it someone will answer your DM and they will be supportive
Monica (:Yes.
Nicole (:Please message the page. We mean it though. We mean it.
Monica (:Yes.
yeah.
Yeah.
Nicole (:You can,
we all have personal pages also. can fucking message us personally too. We love that shit, please. no, no, it's not gonna come to the podcast, no.
Kelsie (:Yeah. You're not going to come here. It's just, it just, if you need, if you have, that was the point
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:of this in the beginning is that like, we are like, we found this great group chat and we can be, you know, everybody deserves a kind of chat where you can come and just talk and without feeling like something like you're going to be judged or, you know, and so if you don't have that, you can, we are really great people. so.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah.
We, this is that, we can be that.
Monica (:mean, one of the perks
of us just being a mediocre podcast is it's not like our DMs are exploding. We really will answer.
Kelsie (:Our DMs aren't flooded.
Nicole (:It's not like... Listen! We answer
our own DMs, okay? We read our own shit! We're here, we're here!
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Monica (:that is my my
WTF. So definitely some wins, definitely some challenges. But you know what? A good cry. It definitely helped. that and I told my husband, ⁓ peace. I'm going to Starbucks for like four hours. I'm going to get all the shit on my to do list. It like is weighing me down on this like mental load. Like this is on you. I'll see you in four hours. And he was like, got it. And then he's like, just come back.
Nicole (:Got it.
Monica (:feeling better and I was like, I'll do my best. But I did, it helped, it helped
Nicole (:Okay, I will come back.
Monica (:a lot. I got, I was able to get some stuff done that like, I couldn't think through because just the concept, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, I just needed a little bit of time to process. ⁓
Nicole (:Me right now, me right
now trying to film this podcast with no help, with no help. Literally nobody here to watch my children or help. Thanks, thanks, thanks. ⁓ But sometimes I'll just be it. Go Cal's.
Monica (:Right, right. You're doing a phenomenal job, Nicole. All right, Miss Kelsey. Right.
Kelsie (:My WTF, my win for the week is I guess that I'm having a baby next week.
Nicole (:Yeah!
Monica (:I'm so excited!
Kelsie (:Literally,
no, if Sans or Butz about it, I'm having a baby next week. There's gonna be a bother. I didn't want to see this. A bothered baby. Yes, there is going to be a bother. So that's exciting. Also, like, I don't know, I probably got some stuff I should do. I don't know. Yeah, that's a little nerve. That's a little nerve.
Nicole (:There's gonna be a bother baby. ⁓ yeah
Monica (:Yeah, she will be there!
Nicole (:Ha
You're about to have three kids. That's crazy. You're about to have three kids.
Kelsie (:We'll see I'm also about to start homeschooling my six-year-old, so I really signed myself up for a lot But that's it That's okay. We got to do what we got to do to help our kids and my kiddo needs that so My T What am I triggered by ⁓ Hand in hand with my W. I've also simultaneously triggered because I got
Monica (:Yes, I'm so excited for that.
Nicole (:You have.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:My cervix checked this week and I know a lot of people are like, you don't have to your cervix Listen, I am nosy. I want my cervix checked. I just want you to know, like, no one's pressuring me into this. I'm like...
Monica (:It goes back to like the instant
gratification. Where are we progressing? What is happening? ⁓
Nicole (:Yeah. Yeah, I need
to know.
Kelsie (:My
my the nurse was like you can have your cervix checks if you want I'm like yep, and then the doctor walks in and I've got my like sheet on and she's like so we're checking your cervix cuz I feel like she she's not like she never presses it know if I She just is chill, and I'm like yeah, we are Anyways my tea is that I'm only one centimeter dilated which is like not that crazy. I'm I'll be 38 weeks on
Monica (:Yes, please.
Get to it. ⁓
Nicole (:We are, yeah.
Kelsie (:Thursday. so it's not, that's not crazy. But with both of my boys, like I was like, progressing dilating throughout the like from 36 to 39.
Monica (:Okay, but wait.
Okay, from 36 weeks. Okay, that's I was gonna ask is like.
Nicole (:Mm-mm.
Kelsie (:Yeah, I think I got checked at 36. But I don't know
that I was ever at one. Like, I feel like right from the beginning with the boys, like, was like, oh, they're like, you're two. And then maybe even the average, like I sat with three for a long time. So it's like, one was kind of a bummer. But also, we love to share things that are just oversharing. But I don't care. Her head is like below my cervix. So she's down there. So
Monica (:Yeah.
You might tell me immediately.
Kelsie (:she did like reach behind the baby's head to find my cervix. She's like, I don't even know if I could truly feel how dilated you are because I can't reach it. And finally she got it. And she was like, oh yeah, I think you're only a one and you're still kind of thick. And I'm like, that's one thing I had with the boys is that I was like 75 % effaced from the first time I was checked. Like I was thinned out pretty good from early on.
Nicole (:That's crazy.
Kelsie (:And she didn't say, like she didn't say I was like super thick, but I wasn't like, she didn't say I was like super thin either. So, but I have to be medically induced. ⁓ feel like a lot happened when we were off season. So a lot of times ⁓ I a test result come back, not let's clarify. It was not the nipped because I get this question all the time.
Monica (:Yeah. Yeah, that did happen.
Nicole (:Yes, a lot did happen. Let's give a little recap.
Kelsie (:when I talk about this on Instagram, the nipped test where they do the gender and Down syndrome and like trisomy. Okay, that happens at 12 weeks. That's not what this test was. I've had so many people be like, mine came back. I'm normal. This was not that test. This was at 16 weeks. I guess you could get a blood test that tests what's called like the AFP serum. And it's a level in your blood, but baby also can put it off if there's like spina bifida or
Nicole (:What?
Monica (:I don't even know what that is. Oh, okay.
Nicole (:What is that?
⁓
Kelsie (:congenital defects or something wrong with the placenta or it can indicate cancer in like a normal person if it's over a certain amount it can indicate cancer in like liver or like testicles ovary.
Monica (:Hmm.
Nicole (:In you, right?
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Which I
think we did mention that you had this test done. But I don't think we really talked about it much more after that.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:Aye, aye.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:So
I had the test, it came back very high. ⁓ Very, very high, apparently very high. But they haven't found anything wrong with the baby thus far. Like everything has been good. We have monthly, monthly ultrasounds, weekly ultrasounds. ⁓ They did do an ultrasound on my liver and obviously they look at your ovaries when you're pregnant. So like they didn't see anything on my ovaries.
Nicole (:Yes. Like an insane number. Hi.
Monica (:Hallelujah.
Nicole (:See you!
Basically all the tests came back negative.
Kelsie (:Yeah, but they're not with but like it was so high that they're too freaked out to call it ⁓ like they don't want to just say it's false positive because it was so high and it like it by my I was the topic of like lunchroom conversation at the hospital because my OB was like the MFM came up to me and she was just telling me how high your number was and she was like I guess I didn't really realize that like it was that you know because that's what they deal with and OB's kind of just
Nicole (:Nervous. A false positive. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Right, right, right, right.
Kelsie (:They don't deal with it that much because they pass it on when it's high to the high risk. so, so she, you know, she was like, I thought maybe I'd seen a number that high and my, specialist was like, no, you've never seen a number this high. Anyways, all that's to say is I'm being medically induced next week. They don't want me to go overdo because, um, if it is something to do with the placenta, like when do you go overdo? Like placentas have a
Monica (:Yeah.
Yeah, they're not as familiar with it.
Nicole (:Specialists, yeah.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:They can have an expiration date. So anyways, I'm not going over to I have to be induced if I don't go. I would like to go on my own. So I really was just hoping she'd like.
Nicole (:They got a time limit basically. Yeah.
Monica (:expiration. ⁓
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:So that's why I'm disappointed by one centimeter just to really
Monica (:things can change so fast with that, so.
Kelsie (:They can't. Things can change so fast.
I had Maverick in three hours from first contraction to the end. Although I did have my membrane sweeped. Sweeped. Sweeped. But yeah, first contraction to the end with Maverick, my second, was three hours. So I feel like I've been perhaps was, that was a little fast, but I spoiled me a little bit after having a 19 hour labor before that. So anywho.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah,
Yes, with Lola, my first, she, I remember I had, I literally had a doctor's appointment. They were like, oh, you're only like, I think it was only like 50 % of face. Like, you know, you only got a two dilation. Like you're good. You're cool. You're chilling. was 37 weeks and like, I don't know, four days or some shit like that. She came the next day.
Monica (:Yeah,
Nicole (:my water broke that like the next night. Like,
Monica (:we can change so fast.
Kelsie (:Yeah, anything can go, yeah, that's...
Monica (:my goodness.
Kelsie (:I probably need to just
like try to reverse my brain and not like be overthinking it because I think that I want so badly to go into labor so I don't have to be induced. But my doctor was like, I really hope you hold on to next week because she's like, I'm on call this day, this day, this day, obviously the day that you were supposed to be induced as well. But like, she's like, really want it. Selfishly, I want to be the one to deliver your baby. And I'm like, no, I want you to be the one to deliver my baby. That's why I need to just chill and like try to do it.
Nicole (:Get excited. Yeah.
Kelsie (:this is my favorite OB that I've ever had, so I actually am very excited for her to deliver my baby. And I've never had the one that I saw the whole time be the one to deliver, so I do want that.
Nicole (:Yeah, you want her to.
You know, you might get it
because as long as she doesn't say that she's going on vacation, you'll probably be okay. That happened twice to me. Twice. Yeah. Yeah. While they were on vacation. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Same.
Monica (:Yeah, that happened to me. I was in labor and my doctor went to Hawaii.
Kelsie (:That's what happened with Mavericks. We went on vacation.
I will say
that I think she's because the baby is so low, she's like, I think she really thinks that like there's a possibility that it could just happen really fast. But the thing with Maverick was is that the baby was so, he was so low that he wasn't putting pressure on my cervix because he was below it.
Monica (:Yeah, it could.
Nicole (:He was
below it, I know! That's wild for me to wrap my brain around. How is he so low and not already out? you know what I mean? Like, how are you still in there?
Monica (:That's so wild to me, like...
Yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
She's like every week she's like, you're just so tall. You just, you carry your baby so low. I'm like, it's lucky it's till the end. And then it's like, it was like bullseye to fly again, in case you're not watching. It's lucky until trying to go into labor because with Maverick, this is graphic. Plug your ears if you're easily triggered. But like when she swept my membranes, she was like, I'm going to have to like,
Monica (:Lucky.
Nicole (:Maybe
that's gotta be it.
Monica (:can fly.
Nicole (:I'm gonna take it as a good sign, because we're talking about the baby. Sorry. Or if you're new here.
Kelsie (:I'm gonna tug on it a little bit to try and get it to where it's like his head is pushing on it, you know? So like when she swept it, like, she like caught, yeah. She kinda like pulled down. It worked! But I'm like, how do I, I'm trying to like tuck my pelvis, like how do I tuck my pelvis just right to where she gets her head on top of it?
Nicole (:hate when you tell this story. You've told us this before and I hate every time. Every time. Okay.
Monica (:Ugh.
Kelsie (:I- I don't know if I have a true FML,
Monica (:Yes, we.
Nicole (:Do you anything funny that happened?
Kelsie (:I don't know if anybody is fine. This is funny as I did I feel like it was you had to be their situation, but Maverick was making like mud pies under our swing set Earlier in the week or late last week And he played under there for probably just 30 minutes just sitting there like treating the mud like play-doh and He came over to us. He's Two okay. He came over to us. He was like be bopping around and then he went
Monica (:Love that for him.
Nicole (:Gosh, is he
Kelsie (:walked back over to the playset and There's like two slides and he walked in between and he didn't even get fully under there and he just starts screeching and I mean not like Not like he's a
pain because like he got stung by a bee last week and that was a different cry this was like he was like literally like running to us as fast as he could and I've never I guess I've never seen him like truly scared ⁓ like I've only seen like hurt maverick or mad maverick I've never seen scared maverick and I was like yeah I was like what is what wrong what's wrong
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Never seen terrified, Maverick. Terrified.
Kelsie (:And he climbed up in my lap and he literally he clasps his chest he goes And I'm like, okay, that's very true. What did we what happened
so Trevor goes over there and he's like, come on, show me, you know, and Maverick is like, I'm not going back over there. He's like pointing and he was like, blalalala gibberish.
Nicole (:You ⁓
Kelsie (:And
he kind of tiptoed like halfway over there, but he was not getting any closer and I'm like, what did this kid see? Because like there was a frog in the pool one time and he was fascinated by the frog But if the frog came at him, he was like, that's a no-go like a frog. I was like, maybe there's just like a big toad under there or something
Nicole (:He said, hell no.
Monica (:gosh.
Nicole (:Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monica (:Yeah. Hell no.
Kelsie (:Trevor is like walking around under there and all of sudden you just see this snake slither and Maverick's like.
He's like he's like that's good like he's like pointing, but he's not speaking English. He's like
Monica (:All I'm picturing right now is what, I can't think of the character's name, but like wild thornberries.
Nicole (:Donnie.
Kelsie (:I scared Donnie. Scared. Yes. And he's like, he's like, he's like, and it's like slithers away and goes under the fence. And then he's just like, he's eyeing because that's what kind of where the sand like the sandbox is over in that corner. And it went that it went that way and out. And he's like, yeah, no, he literally came and yeah. So it was I was like, how big was that? He's like, he's like, that was like, at least three feet is like a black snake.
Nicole (:you
Monica (:funny.
Nicole (:He's like, hell no, I'm not going by that tan box.
Monica (:Like is it, is it gone? Is it coming back?
Nicole (:hell no,
Monica (:⁓ my gosh,
Nicole (:my god.
Kelsie (:And I was like, that's
Monica (:hell no.
Kelsie (:pretty weird. The thing is though, it was probably under there with him the whole time, just chilling. And he just didn't see it. Cause there was like, ⁓ there was like a, ⁓ like some toys under there.
Nicole (:He just didn't know it. Yeah. No. No, I can't think of
Monica (:Okay. Well,
Nicole (:that. No, I can't.
Monica (:okay. But like for where you live, like, is that a scary poisonous snake or okay. Well, okay. But here in Arizona, you see a snake and it could very likely be a rattlesnake. So that's why I'm like, okay, what kind of snake are we talking about?
Kelsie (:No, no, black sinks not scary. I mean, they get big.
Nicole (:No.
was it? A rat snake?
Kelsie (:No, I mean there are I mean this was not a rattlesnake
the rattlesnakes are they are they do exist here, but wait This was not you. No, this was not Yeah, they're more like probably more in the hills or like I haven't seen one. I don't see one. Um This was a this truly was just a black snake. Um We had one on our I think you guys we had one on our roof a couple like up last month. It was like it was
Nicole (:You guys have rattlesnakes there? Cool. I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:I have seen several.
We have a lot of those too. Yes. That one was giant.
Monica (:yeah, it's probably the same frickin' one.
Kelsie (:five feet long at least and it was it was huge
Nicole (:No, no, no. Yeah. That one was literally huge.
Monica (:Yeah, that one was so
Kelsie (:this
Monica (:big.
Kelsie (:was not that this was that guy was girthy this one was skinnier like three feet anyways
His reaction was very animated and it was just it was cute And I didn't expect that cuz like homie brought me a spider the other day He brought me a spider alive. He's like Spidey ⁓
Nicole (:So funny, yeah.
see, no. I would have punted him. No, I would have, no. No, nope, nope. No, because in my brain, everything
Monica (:No thank you. No thank you. I'm good. ⁓
Nicole (:is poisonous or deadly, okay? Don't be touching stuff! Don't be touching stuff out in the wild! Okay, that's cool. It's fine.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:Well he brought me a roly-poly- he's brought me roly-polys and I'm like, that's
so cute, roly-polys! And then one day he brought me a spider and you know he's been watching Spidey. And so he's like, Spidey! And I'm like, nuh-nuh-nuh, don't. Don't bring me Spidey's, please.
Nicole (:⁓ god, don't
Monica (:No,
Nicole (:please
Monica (:thank you. No, thank
Nicole (:don't it's no it's a good I'll pass hardcore pass on the bugs
Kelsie (:I don't want to create
anxieties within you that you don't have, but like perhaps we exercise a little bit of caution with what we think.
Nicole (:But also,
Monica (:you
All right, well on that note, have yapped and yapped today. We are some yapping bothered bitches today.
Nicole (:Sure have. Sure have.
Kelsie (:We are.
Nicole (:We be yappin'. We be yappin'.
Kelsie (:We make outlines, we don't stick to them. Well, we kind of stuck to it, but we still talked a fucking lot.
Nicole (:We sh-
Monica (:We-
Nicole (:Bro, we
do we do the thing is we'll stick to it in the beginning and then we just go the complete opposite It's fine
Monica (:You
but it is so good to be back. I have missed recording with you guys
Nicole (:I so
have missed recording also. I so have, it's so much fun. I wanna do it every day. I really do.
Monica (:I know.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Monica (:I know, I know.
But hooray for one year. I feel so proud of us. We've made it a year. We did it! We did a thing.
Nicole (:We did it. We did a thing. We did a thing.
Kelsie (:We did a thing.
Nicole (:We did a thing. Yeah, we made it a year recording this podcast. Yeah. Our mediocre podcast.
Monica (:Yes.
So if you have hung with us the last year or you just found us, make sure to share when you are listening so that you can invite your friends to also join the group chat and become a bothered bitch with us.
Nicole (:True dat! Join the Bothered Bitch crew and keep an eye out on how to win your own bitch kit and ⁓ keep an eye out on the giveaway
Kelsie (:Do it.
Monica (:Yeah.
And if you liked this episode or any others, make sure you leave us a review. It helps us tremendously with growing our podcast and growing the group chat. So like, share, follow, subscribe, do all the things.
Nicole (:Do all the things! Okay, bye!
Kelsie (:Yeah
Monica (:Bye!
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