Episode 24

24 | Feliz Dia De Las Madres | A Little Bit Bothered

In this episode of A Little Bit Bothered, the girls chit chat about some "interesting" baby names, motherhood and how we all need to take a deep breath (although it's so valid IYKYK), and the chaos that comes with it. Kelsie shares some birthing stories that involve a man with hands like Shrek - You read that right...They share laughs about the most outrageous names they've encountered, like a kid named Ahmiracle—talk about a conversation starter! This group chat is filled with playful jabs and relatable truths about parenting, the expectations surrounding Mother’s Day, and how naming a child is basically a sport in itself. Get ready for some giggles and maybe a little cringe as they navigate the ups and downs of motherhood and everything in between!

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Takeaways:

  • The podcast dives into the hilariously chaotic world of parenting and pregnancy, where every little detail is up for debate and laughter.
  • Listeners get to enjoy brutally honest and playful conversations about the ups and downs of motherhood, highlighting the struggles and joys.
  • The hosts share their experiences with unique baby names, showcasing how names can spark joy or induce panic among parents-to-be.
  • They explore the concept of how expectations around Mother's Day can be overwhelming, emphasizing the importance of personal celebrations and self-care.
  • The episode features relatable anecdotes about pregnancy mishaps, childbirth experiences, and the comical side of parenting that keeps listeners entertained.
  • The discussion also touches on societal expectations of motherhood, making it clear that every mom has her own journey and stories to tell.
Transcript
Kelsie (:

I've had a man sweep my membranes that had the hands of fucking Shrek so it couldn't, there are a few things that could be worse than that.

Ashley (:

We're a little bit bothered. Hello, hello. ⁓

Nicole (:

Mothered

Monica (:

Always

Kelsie (:

We're five seconds into this

Monica (:

hello back for another week

Nicole (:

Hello! Oh, hello!

Ashley (:

Welcome back!

Kelsie (:

and my leg is already asleep.

Ashley (:

My back is hurting

Nicole (:

⁓

Ashley (:

actually already too, what the hell? ⁓ no. It's creepin'. Dear lord.

Nicole (:

your vagina lip too?

Monica (:

There it is. I waiting for Nicole.

Kelsie (:

Not yet, but it's creeping. It's creeping pretty far up there, so I won't be shocked if that

Nicole (:

It's

Kelsie (:

goes, if the the lip goes in a second.

Ashley (:

Well, please keep us updated.

Monica (:

It's creepy.

Nicole (:

creepin' before you know it. Before you know it, the lip will be sleepin'. Okay, I'm done.

Monica (:

⁓ gosh.

Kelsie (:

Yeah

Ashley (:

Take a little snooze

Monica (:

Welcome, welcome. Here's another week. Starting off strong.

Ashley (:

Hello?

Nicole (:

I'm Great way to open. Speaking of your lips,

I'm kidding.

Ashley (:

You

Kelsie (:

Just kidding.

Ashley (:

Ooh, good segue, good segue.

Monica (:

was crying already.

Kelsie (:

Would you be shocked if that's truly was a real conversation topic right off the bat? No.

Nicole (:

It kind of will be,

because we were going to talk about your birthday.

Ashley (:

No, I wouldn't be shocked. It's come up

before.

Kelsie (:

Exactly. Yeah.

Anywho. ⁓ God. This pregnancy. Fuckin' she's sitting on a nerve. Okay. ⁓ Anywho.

Nicole (:

Well, the

Monica (:

How we doing this week?

We had a birthday.

Nicole (:

start of them getting on your nerves.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, the first they literally physically get on your nerves then it's just Metaphorically

Monica (:

You.

Ashley (:

before they're even out.

Monica (:

Yes.

Kelsie (:

after that Yeah Anyways, yeah, it was my birthday this week So I'm not bothered by that. It was good time Except for I started out my birthday sobbing literally sobbing Do I get me crying?

Monica (:

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nicole (:

No. Nope, nope. And...

Monica (:

Why?

Ashley (:

Yeah, over what?

Monica (:

Bye!

Kelsie (:

It was warranted this time. First of all, I, so I have to, I had to finish my class for anybody listening. I been taking college classes. The last day of my term was my birthday. And I, so I had to take the test for my class that day to pass or fail. And I, to unlock the, the final test, you have to take

Nicole (:

you

Ashley (:

Mm.

Kelsie (:

The pre-test. So I took that the night before and I didn't finish it till like after midnight, unlocked the test. So I go to schedule it, cause I know like everyone else who's a procrastinator like me is also scheduling their test on the final day. The only times to take tests that were left available were from 2.40 a.m. until 8 a.m. Those were the only times. Everything else for the rest of the day was gone. So I was like, okay. All right, I picked.

Nicole (:

Ugh.

you

Kelsie (:

the 8 a.m. I was like, gotta take my test at 8 a.m. which is crazy because I also have to get Mattis out the door. Anyway, could not, I have never lost. I have to have a special camera to take my test because that's like be separate from my computer so it can watch the computer at me. And it, I've never lost it. It's always just where it is and it's fine. It's just no one ever wrestles with it.

Nicole (:

Mm.

⁓ makes sense.

Kelsie (:

I fucking went MIA on this one day when there's no other times to take a test. Rescheduling is not an option. I will fail the class if I don't take the test. Could not find it, which it was literally on the dining room table until Mattis's birthday party on that said on Sunday. So it was like, where the where the fuck did it go? I was like, I actually remember picking it up and moving it, but I could have swore I just set it somewhere in plain sight, just not on the dining room table.

Monica (:

Cause you clean.

Ashley (:

Thank

Thank

Nicole (:

you

Kelsie (:

Time is going on. getting closer and closer to my test time. And I have not found the camera. And I'm just like. I'm just starting to lose it. I'm like, this has got to be a fucking joke, right? And then Trevor Loki pissed me off sometime in the middle of searching for the camera. So then that really sent me over. So I was literally sobbing and I'm like, I don't I don't fucking know.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

I mean, what else do do in that situation?

You

Kelsie (:

Last ditch effort like 10 minutes before the test started. I walked into the laundry room to look one more time on the shelves because I wouldn't put it anywhere else in there, but like maybe the shelves. And I looked down between the wall and the washer and it's upside down. And you could just barely see it. and but Mattis had been in there because sometimes he thinks that we hide shit from him. We do hide shit from him in there sometimes. But he was.

Nicole (:

⁓ He knows your hiding

Ashley (:

Ha ha!

Nicole (:

spot.

Kelsie (:

He was particularly

convinced that we had hid something in there from him like the day before. So I should have known to check, uh, like the sides, but I didn't know. I anyways, it was in there. And then as I go, get everything settled, literally go to take the test. The electricity goes out at the time of the test and knocks the wifi out. And I'm like, the electricity came back on, but the wifi didn't. I'm like,

Nicole (:

you

Nope.

Kelsie (:

something is against me taking this test. Like, are these omens that I should not be taking this test? And it came as literally as I was trying to hook up to my hotspot, it came back on and I passed the test. That wasn't, that was not the whole point of this birthday story. Actually, it was that I made a call. I made a comment later in the day. I said, when you're 21, you just, you're thinking about where you're going to get your first legal drink or like buying your first drink.

Monica (:

Right.

Ashley (:

Ha ha.

Nicole (:

not supposed

to pass this class.

Monica (:

Right?

Ashley (:

Yay.

Nicole (:

you

Monica (:

Yay.

Kelsie (:

And when you're 31, you're excited because you just got a bunch of new underwear, which I did. I went shopping. Yes, yes. I went shopping and I got underwear. It's what's more exciting is I didn't have to buy it. My mom bought it, so.

Nicole (:

Which is why I asked about her lips before.

Monica (:

You know what? That is exciting. That is exciting.

Ashley (:

that is nice.

Monica (:

Even

better because underwear is one of those things where like it is really expensive or something that like doesn't feel like it should be that expensive

Nicole (:

you

Kelsie (:

Well, and it's like, of all the things you're gonna spend money on, it's like I to buy, I have to money on underwear, like for real.

Nicole (:

Yeah, and it's annoying because it's a necessity, why do I want to spend money on this? It's just one of those things.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

but we were in TJ Maxx

and I got like three different five packs for decent prices. it was like.

Ashley (:

That's the last place I bought underwear too. I hadn't bought underwear in a long time and I just bought some like maybe two weeks ago or something and I also got it at TGMAX. Very affordable.

Nicole (:

TJ Maxx. TJ Maxx.

I don't even know when the last

time I bought underwear was.

Ashley (:

Before that, it was a long time.

Kelsie (:

I just know that

I keep like, I'm pregnant, like things are changing and I keep pulling out underwear and I'm like, whose underwear is this? It's certainly not mine. I cannot be wearing this. This is not comfortable. It doesn't fit right. So yeah.

Nicole (:

Mm.

you

Ashley (:

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Monica (:

This is so not my-

Nicole (:

Certainly not mine.

Kelsie (:

But there's people that don't wear underwear at all.

Monica (:

brain just glitched.

Nicole (:

There are people that don't wear underwear at all.

Monica (:

Yeah, there are people that do that. I don't know if any of us are one of them.

Kelsie (:

Which is fine.

Nicole (:

It's never been my thing either.

Kelsie (:

There's like some like if I'm wearing leggings like I could you know hit or miss I don't care like I could go without underwear, but like Well, yeah, but this is what I'm this is the point I'm gonna make is that the people that wear no underwear with jeans or like jean shorts psychopaths Crazy that seem

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

It depends on the leggings.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Mm-mm. Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Yeah, what are you doing? What are you doing? That

Monica (:

How does that not like

Nicole (:

steam! You're crazy. What are you doing?

Monica (:

chafe and like rub like, eww. Yeah.

Ashley (:

The hard denim? Yeah, no. No.

Kelsie (:

But speaking of

that, have I told this story before? It feels like I have deja vu. When I was pregnant with Maverick, I just straight up couldn't find underwear. So I was wearing maternity jean shorts, no underwear. We were coming out of Target and I sneezed and I didn't pee a lot, but I peed a little, but when it felt like a lot as it was trickling down my leg walking out of Target because...

Monica (:

⁓ no.

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Nicole (:

Nothing to catch it.

Ashley (:

⁓ my-

Kelsie (:

Because there's nothing to catch it.

Ashley (:

Ha

Monica (:

There's

no bu-

Kelsie (:

I'm like, please

God don't let anybody be behind me because it's just running down to my ankle.

Ashley (:

Ha ha ha!

Monica (:

⁓ my gosh.

Kelsie (:

Mm.

Nicole (:

So fucking funny. I honestly I think the only underwear that I've bought recently are period underwear

Ashley (:

Yeah, that's hilarious.

Kelsie (:

Well, I literally couldn't find any underwear the other day, so I wore my period underwear. And then it checked out for me because I sneezed, peed my pants a little bit. And I was like, I'm wearing period underwear. Just soaked it right up.

Ashley (:

yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

And you're pregnant and you peed. Yep. I'm like, I'm thinking like,

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Monica (:

Okay.

Nicole (:

why the hell didn't I buy these when I was postpartum? Like this would have been so smart.

Monica (:

for real.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. What no one tells you that nobody

Kelsie (:

Such a godsend after having Maverick.

Yeah. That's, you know, that's true.

Ashley (:

ever says that.

Monica (:

No, no. And can I

just say, I definitely did not expect how normalized peeing your pants would be in conversation in my 30s.

Nicole (:

yeah.

Yeah. Obviously we all have really weak pelvic floors and we need to work on it. Jesus Lord. Fucking somebody tell us all the pelvic floor exercises. Jayden, Jayden send all of the pelvic floor exercises our way.

Kelsie (:

Truly.

Ashley (:

Ha ha ha.

Kelsie (:

It's really...

Monica (:

But it's not just us!

Kelsie (:

I really had, I obviously did pee my pants a little bit with Maverick because I just told you that story, but like it wasn't that bad and it was really right towards the end. This kid, I've been peeing every time I sneeze since like fucking 15 weeks. Like what in God's name?

Nicole (:

Hmm

Conception?

Monica (:

Yeah, everything, everything is

so much worse than that third pregnancy. Yeah, I will say it. Pelvic floor has gotten so much better over years in surgery, but it's like out of habit that when I sneeze, I still like cross my legs. like, oh, I got to prepare. I did that last night. My husband was like, I thought we fixed that. We did. We did. Hold on.

Kelsie (:

Bro.

Nicole (:

Thank God I'm not having another one.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

You still cross your legs.

James.

Ashley (:

Hahaha, didn't we already pay to handle that situation?

Nicole (:

How much money did we pay to

Kelsie (:

Old habits die hard.

Nicole (:

handle that situation? Yeah, go back. What's the date of warranty on this? How long's the warranty last? ⁓

Ashley (:

Yeah, if it's not fixed, go back.

Monica (:

Okay.

Right.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Ha ha.

Ashley (:

Kept your receipt. I actually don't really have a problem. I don't have a problem with peeing when I sneeze, but I never pushed a baby out. So maybe that has something to do with it, but I didn't. But when I was pregnant, I really didn't have that problem either. I never really had that issue. My torso is so long. Well, so is yours, Kelsey. So I feel like they didn't. Yeah.

Nicole (:

you

Monica (:

it.

Nicole (:

I don't now really. well, yeah you had.

Monica (:

okay. Well, maybe, yeah.

Kelsie (:

Maybe.

kids.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Lucky. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

But my, I don't know, maybe it depends where your babysit. Mine sits,

I don't know if, I don't remember Mattis being that big of a problem, but Maverick and this baby are just down there. They're like ready to come out. They're down there from very early on. She did my ultrasound the other day and she was like, ⁓ yeah, there she is. She's head down. She is right on your bladder. And I'm like, I fucking know it. Like, I know.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Yeah, no.

Nicole (:

I know. Freaking

Monica (:

You don't have to tell me. I'm aware.

Nicole (:

Ava. Ava, literally I feel like she was so low the whole break. Okay, so my first was very high. I felt like I had like a basketball but like with Ava, I literally felt like she was gonna fall out at any second towards the end because I'm like, is she on my cervix? Like is she knocking at the door? Because that's what it feels like. It literally feels like

Ashley (:

Mm.

Kelsie (:

you

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Hello?

Nicole (:

She's sitting directly on my cervix and everything is about to fall out. Like it was concerning. I like at one point, know, I'm like, I know we're getting close, but I literally feel like if I separate my legs, everything's gonna come out. All my organs are gonna come out with it. What's happening? Why does it feel like that?

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

with Maverick,

Monica (:

my goodness.

Kelsie (:

with Maverick, literally at the end, I'm gonna get descriptive. He was so low that when they were, like, you know, I'm surprised you haven't gone into labor yet. But when she like was like, like checking my cervix, she was like, well, the problem is that he's so low that his head is like actually below your cervix. So it's not pushing on your cervix. It's so low that it doesn't like the cervix is not even getting the pressure from his head, like because it's like below it basically. So

Nicole (:

Hmm? ⁓

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Nicole (:

It's like already out, basically.

Ashley (:

What the hell?

Kelsie (:

⁓ Yeah, so I had my

Nicole (:

Just push and it'll pop out.

Kelsie (:

like I had my membrane swept like ⁓ the last week and she literally pulled on my cervix to try and get it to like Where his head would be like putting pressure on it. Yeah, I fully supported that it got him out

Monica (:

that is the worst.

Nicole (:

I did not.

Monica (:

No.

Nicole (:

I mean it got him out but

Ashley (:

Was it horrible? Sounds

Monica (:

I mean, it works, but like the sweeping of the membranes is absolutely the worst.

Ashley (:

terrible.

Kelsie (:

I've had a man sweep my membranes that had the hands of fucking Shrek so it couldn't, there are a few things that could be worse than that.

I'm not exaggerating. He was a big man and his hands were like Shrek hands.

Monica (:

I'm really trying to refrain from the joke I wanna make.

Ashley (:

Ha ha.

Nicole (:

Don't. Don't refrain. Don't refrain. Say it!

Kelsie (:

Don't.

Monica (:

Christina, I'm counting

you guys.

Kelsie (:

we all, we all heard that if you just go back and listen to the, the cake, the hear me out cake, and you'll understand what she's holding back on.

Ashley (:

Hear me out.

He he.

Kelsie (:

It's the personality! Okay.

Monica (:

Are sure?

Nicole (:

swept. never did that. My doctor was like, Oh, we don't do that here. Because I asked because everybody was like, Oh, are you gonna have your membrane swept? Are you gonna have I was like, I don't know what that means. Like my first pregnancy, I was like, Oh, fuck you're talking about. What does that mean? And I but I asked, I was like, sorry, you know, sweep my membranes like when we get closer. And he was like, Oh, no, I we don't do that here. And I was like, Why is it really painful? And he's like, Yeah, it's not fun for you. And I was like, Oh, well, thanks, then.

Ashley (:

I didn't have that either. I didn't have that.

Monica (:

you are so lucky.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

I've been to three different practices and they've all done it. I asked for it though.

Monica (:

Yeah.

It's,

it is, it's so terrible. It's, no, it's not worse than labor, but like I two of my, I had it with two of my three pregnancies because the first one I was already like 41 weeks. And so she was like, we're getting this baby out.

Nicole (:

Okay, I'm good. No, but I had an epidural, so I don't care.

Kelsie (:

It's not worse than labor.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

past. Yeah. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

I I feel like

maybe most people understand what this is, but in case you don't, it's they literally go in there and they like walk their fingers around your cervix and like separate, kind of separate it from the amniotic sac and it can induce labor.

Monica (:

Yeah, and it like stimulates

contractions for sure, but it's just like, it's so painful. Like it's just, I don't even know how to describe it because you can feel it just like in your gut. It just like, it hurts.

Nicole (:

I'm sorry, I'm just like nauseating.

Kelsie (:

It does,

Nicole (:

Ugh.

Kelsie (:

It's

painful but like, I think it just, I don't know, it also depends on who's doing it. It also depends on who's doing it and how like aggressive they are.

Monica (:

It's not the worst pain. Yeah.

Ashley (:

Yeah, I've heard some people say it's not that

Nicole (:

trick.

Ashley (:

bad and some people say it's terrible. So everyone's experience is a little different.

Monica (:

I mean,

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

I'm sure it has to do with like what your pregnancy is too. Like if things are like real, real attached still and like they're really needing to push labor along. Like I could see it being more painful versus somebody that's like already like Ryan about to go into labor anyways. Cause I do think that with the second time I had it done with Merida, that one wasn't as bad as the first time I had it done.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

I'm pretty sure they did it twice with Maverick for me.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

They did do it twice with with J5 and I only had to do it once.

Kelsie (:

Mattis the first time worked

Maverick Maybe she just I don't know anyways it worked the second time

Nicole (:

Well, that's like with epidurals

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

to like a lot of people are like, my God, that was so painful when I got my epidural put in. I didn't even like. Feel it like I felt the pinch. Yeah, I felt the, you know, the pinch, but I was like, I didn't feel anything else after that, but I talked to some people that were like, that was the worst getting the epidural put in. I'm like, really? It wasn't for me. I don't know. Maybe like because where they put it in your spine, maybe like some people have a, you know, more sensitive area like.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

getting it placed was fine. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, it was fine.

Monica (:

Yeah, no, I might.

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

That's probably also like

how good is your anesthesiologist? ⁓

Monica (:

Yeah, I think that's more

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

of what it is, is how good is your anesthesiologist? Yeah.

Nicole (:

I think I had a great one each time. my second time around. Cause Mike can, my contractions were coming on like quicker. Cause obviously like most of the time your second labor goes a little bit faster. Your body already knows what to do. So it's like, yeah, kick it in the high gear. So my contractions were coming like, you know, really fast and he did really, really great. ⁓

Ashley (:

I

loved my anesthesiologist.

Nicole (:

kind of working in between them and like I actually ended up having one while he was back there and he was steady handed and I was trying to stay as still as I possibly could and you know it worked out just fine but yeah I think it probably depends on who your anesthesiologist is also.

Monica (:

Hmm that happened to me too

Yeah,

I will say the epidural headache I had afterwards was, yeah, you don't always get it. It's good if you don't get it, because it means that like the membrane burst or something like that, like in your spine, you're not supposed to get it. It's not good if get it.

Nicole (:

I didn't get that.

Ashley (:

Mm. Mm-mm.

Kelsie (:

I've never had that.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Bill.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, I've heard it's a bad,

bad headache though.

Monica (:

It's

it was the worst headache I've ever had in my life. It was like if I was not laying parallel and even then it was still like hurting but if I sat up it was just like nauseating pain in my head. It was just yeah I just like would like lay on the floor because now I have like this newborn as well as like almost two year old. I should have I should have but me being me I'm like it's me it's in my head it's not that bad like what if I go and they're like that's not what it is.

Nicole (:

Ugh, and that's horrible because you just had a baby.

Ashley (:

Hmm. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Did you have to go and get it patched? Some people have to go get it patched.

Ashley (:

how long did it last?

Nicole (:

I can do it, it's fine. I can deal.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

How long was

it?

Monica (:

It lasted like a week. I really should have gone in, but it was like, it was, it's also that thing though of like, I don't want to go in. I'm gonna have to pay like more to the hospital. And like, I should have gone in, but then, so that was my second pregnancy and it was just the worst headache ever. And then when I was in labor for Merida, I had the anesthesiologist come in, which I almost couldn't have the epidural with her because I was already eight centimeters, no, 10 centimeters and like two minutes apart when I arrived.

Ashley (:

Ugh.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

She was ready.

Kelsie (:

got mine at, yeah, I got mine

Nicole (:

She was ready.

Kelsie (:

at nine, yeah. Or 10 maybe.

Monica (:

Yeah, so

she was almost born on the freeway in my Honda Civic. So, and then, right? And then the anesthesiologist was like in a C-section and literally ran across the hospital to get him. He was great, but like I had asked him, I was like, is that what happened to me? And he was like, you didn't come in? Like, why didn't you come in? You suffered. He's like, I'm so sorry. And so he made me promise that he's like,

Ashley (:

man, what a story that would have been.

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

my gosh.

my God.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

I'm gonna be very, very careful and we're gonna go really slow because we have to go between these contractions and they're coming fast. But if that happens, you have to promise me you're coming back. And I was like, okay. Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Nicole (:

Ugh.

Kelsie (:

I am so

scared that I'm not gonna be able to get one. I'm like, not, I shouldn't say I'm so scared, that's dramatic. Okay, Maverick, we were 30 minutes from the hospital and my contractions started, like the first one to the second one was 20 minutes. After that, five minutes, five minutes. And I was like, it was like excruciating pain. was like, Matt, it was so much faster. I was like, my mom's like, I think you should go to the hospital. I'm like, I don't wanna get, like, I don't wanna get there and like.

Nicole (:

You

Ashley (:

my god.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

get turned away or and after like three or four, I'm like, I don't think that's going to happen. We have to go. And we got there and I was already at like a six, I think. And then we got into the room. And by the time we got into the room, I was like an eight maybe. And then they have to have to give you that like bag of fluids before you can even have the epidural. And I think the anesthesiologist had maybe just left. So he like turned around and came back.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

was he gave me the epidural and they're like, I'm not gonna check you till he's given you the epidural again. I'm not gonna check you again. And so then he gives me the epidural. I'm like convulsing, I'm shaking. I'm like, I'm so sorry, Kate Holtzell. He's like, you're really doing fine. But I always get complimented on my skeletal back. Cause it looks like if I, you can see my like stegosaurus spines, but the anesthesiologist love it.

Nicole (:

Good voicing.

you

Like the instegosaurus over here. ⁓

Kelsie (:

They're like, this is great,

I can see exactly where I need to go. And I'm like, well, I'm glad that it benefits you. But anyways, I get that done and.

They check me and they're like, oh yeah, you're like a 10. And then my doctor's literally, I literally pushed Maverick out like 10 minutes after I got the epidural. And so now I'm like, I asked my doctor, I was like, so I had him like start to finish like in three hours. I, like, what should I do this time around? She's like, do you want to be an induced? And I'm like, no, not unless it's like fully necessary. And she's like, okay, then.

Monica (:

you

Not really.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

like as soon as you have a contraction, you just need to come in right away. And I was like, okay, cool. She's like, do you want an epidural? And I was like, I wouldn't hate it. I mean, like I'd be okay. I'll survive without it, but like I also wouldn't be like, I would like one. But I'm very nervous because they just, you know, they say they get faster and faster. And I'm like, it's still a 30 minute drive.

Nicole (:

Sounds good.

Monica (:

I'm not really mad.

Ashley (:

Thanks.

Nicole (:

Yes, please Yeah, yeah, I if

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

I

Nicole (:

Now that I'm thinking about it I'm almost curious of if getting the epidural slowed my birth down like slowed my labor down I don't know. Is that a thing because Okay, because like

Ashley (:

Yeah, yeah, that's a thing. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

People, they, yeah, I've heard that too. I feel like I did with

Monica (:

Yeah, I think I've heard that. Yeah. I mean, it

makes sense because you can't get up, you can't walk around, you can't do all of the movement. It would help like your body do the thing. so.

Kelsie (:

my first.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

That would help you write. Yeah. So with Lola,

her whole birth was 16 hours. Ava's was literally exactly half from the time my water broke to the time she came out. But

Lola I waited a little bit to get the epidural because I was like, I don't know if I want one. I don't know. And then finally at one point they're like, girl, you need to make a decision. And I was like, okay, fine. Just give it to me. Because this fucking hurts. And then I feel like after that point with her, it felt like so long. However, I was able to like rest, which was nice, but it just felt like it dragged on forever. I went into labor, or my water broke at like 9pm. I didn't give. She didn't arrive until noon.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

the next day, you know, like she was a lunchtime baby. And it was just a long, she was, she was a lunchtime baby. But then with Ava, Ava, almost the same thing. I went into labor in the middle of the night. It was like three o'clock in the morning when my water broke, which it was also weird because it didn't break all the way, but it broke enough and that my contractions started. So then we got there.

Ashley (:

Lunchtime, baby.

Kelsie (:

I wish my

kids would come during the day. That would be fucking nice.

Monica (:

Same, none

of mine did.

Ashley (:

feel like they always come in the middle of the night.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

I was in triage for what felt like ever. was like, why am I in here for so long versus the first time I gave birth? The fuck? And they were like, yeah, you're dilated, you're progressing, blah, blah. We get into the room. And I'm like, I know I want an epidural this time. So like, let's go. So they get it going. Although my contractions were coming pretty quickly. ⁓ Then after that.

Same thing, it like stalled out. They kept coming in to check in me and they're like, okay, you're not quite there yet. Okay, you're not quite there yet. And my freaking, they had me in a wonky position and they didn't want me to move, obviously, because they have to like move you, you know? And I kept telling them like, I can feel it all on my left side. Like I can still feel completely my left hip. I can still feel completely my left back. Every time a contraction comes, I can feel it up my left side and up my left because I have really bad back labor. So I'm like, I can feel it. I can feel it on one side and I was

preparing myself to be able to feel the labor just on one side and I was like I swear if you just move me a little bit shift me I think that'll make a difference and they were like no it wouldn't and I'm like can you please

Kelsie (:

literally what

they did. That's what happened to me and they're like yeah let's just turn you over and it'll it'll do the other side.

Nicole (:

So I said, was like,

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

but

either way, can you please just turn me? Cause I'm uncomfortable anyway. And she was like, okay, so they turned me boom. Whole left leg goes away. I'm like, Who's the nurse? Anyway, it's almost like I know what my body is doing. Almost. Wow. But then like it, again, she also didn't come till after lunchtime and it just felt like I'm wondering if I didn't have.

Monica (:

It's almost like we can feel what's going on in our body.

Nicole (:

an epidural in either of those situations if they would have came out a lot faster and I would have.

Kelsie (:

Do you hear that, ma'am? You can come at lunchtime. You come out at lunchtime.

Nicole (:

had a lot shorter of labor. Yeah, ma'am.

Yeah, little girl in there. Get out here, missy, at lunchtime.

Ashley (:

Not until the epidural is in.

Kelsie (:

Get out here, missy, at lunchtime. Epidural, no

epidural. I'll happily do no epidural if you come during the day. Because when they come in the middle of the night, you don't get to sleep because it's like, it's not, there's nothing to eat. they even like, I think my first hot hospital, the kitchen was open in the middle of the night. But with the second one, the kitchen wasn't even open. So you just had to take whatever snacks they had like on the floor.

Nicole (:

during the daytime.

Monica (:

Right?

Ashley (:

You could be a lunchtime baby.

Nicole (:

Mm-mm.

Monica (:

And there's nothing to eat.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah, I sent people out all

Ashley (:

that's criminal.

Monica (:

three pregnancies.

Go get me food.

Kelsie (:

It was, well, was midnight

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

with Mattis and it was three in the morning with, uh, was it three in the morning with Maverick? It was even, yeah, yeah, it was three in the morning. So it was like, nothing's open at three in the morning. Anyways, you don't get to sleep because once you're, once they come out, then it's like, oh, they're doing this or doing that. They're checking this or checking that they're, they're doing all the things. Trevor fell asleep and I'm just like, I'm here.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

It is nice.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. All the things.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

It takes so long. It's wild.

Nicole (:

Yeah,

having them during the day. Right? I was gonna say having them during the day was kind of nice because you're not trying to sleep in the middle of the night and then they're coming in and massaging your guts every five minutes. But like during the day I was awake because you know adrenaline also and for me like the epidurals once the needle was out and everything was out everything wore off for me pretty quickly. I don't know how it is for everybody else but mine wore off pretty damn fast. So like also

Kelsie (:

getting my fundal massages.

Monica (:

⁓

Ashley (:

Ugh,

yes.

Monica (:

I hate those.

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Yeah.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

during the daytime, you kind of just feel like, okay, well, yeah, we just went through a major thing, but I could get up and I can walk around. I'm okay to do that. Like in the middle of the night, you're not really wanting to do that. Probably. I wouldn't think.

Monica (:

Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

And it doesn't

fuck up your sleep cycle on an already, like you're already about to be royally fucked for the next like at least week. So like the least you could do is, yeah, that's true, yeah.

Nicole (:

Not really. Yeah.

Monica (:

I'm here.

Nicole (:

Right. I mean, I was up all night the night before with both kids,

but yeah, at least like by the time the evening comes around, you're kind of ready to like go to bed. And so is everybody else. And it is nice kind of having them in the day. I made Justin go get me salad to go when we had Ava. I didn't know of it with Lola. So Ava, I was like, this is what I want, go and get it. And it was easy because it was open during the day. And I was like, please. And I didn't care that he left.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

you

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

So like, this is our second kid. I don't care. Go get out of here. Please.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Wow, these experiences

are so different than the scheduled C-section when you show up at a certain time and just like check in and walk back and like everything's... Yeah, I never had the food experience or...

Monica (:

Yeah, that's gonna be a very different experience.

Nicole (:

Yeah, I bet. Yeah.

My first. Really? That's

Monica (:

Oh my gosh.

Nicole (:

crazy.

Monica (:

When J5 was born, I had been in labor for, it was either 31 or 33 hours. I can't remember. It was so long. It was so long. He just did not want to be born. It was, it was so long. And by the time I was like in like real, real active labor, I was like in this interval of like pushing and being like, like so thirsty. And then they had oxygen on me too. So that didn't help.

Ashley (:

Good.

Nicole (:

That's too long. ⁓

It's like no thanks.

Kelsie (:

I did.

Monica (:

but I could only have ice chips. I'd like eat some ice chips and it would like kind of help, but then that would make me nauseous and I'd throw it up and then I'd like push again. It was like for two hours, this cycle, it was awful. And so then by the time he was born, it was like after 11 o'clock at night. And all I wanted was like a giant bowl of fruit. That was all I wanted. I just wanted a giant bowl of fruit. And so, yeah.

Nicole (:

⁓

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Hahaha.

Nicole (:

that you were not allowed to have because nothing is open.

Monica (:

Fortunately, there was an IHOP right down the road. And so my mom left and I was like, I need crepes. I don't want pancakes. I need crepes. I need crepes and a giant bowl of fruit. And she's like, okay. So she like left. By the time she got back, we were like settled into our room finally. And I just was like so happy with my bowl of fruit and crepes. You can hold the baby. I just need fruit.

Nicole (:

good.

Ashley (:

Need. It's a need.

Nicole (:

Specifically.

So

Ashley (:

Ha!

Nicole (:

funny. That's so funny. I ⁓ with Lola, I was the only person on the floor that night that wasn't scheduled wasn't a scheduled induction. I was literally there was like, I don't know, I think eight other women that were giving birth at the same time I was they were all scheduled. They all came in and their slippers with their pillows and their things and I was like, must be nice.

Monica (:

It was awful, and it was so long.

It is kind of nice being scheduled

for an induction because that was the second pregnancy and you're just like, hi, I'm here. But then you still have to wait, unlike Ashley.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Yeah, I was like, wow. I wish I would have

Kelsie (:

You

Nicole (:

known to like bring my pillow all I did was like, my mom took me to the hospital and I sent Justin to grab the to go bag because we were at my mom's house. We weren't even at my house because she was too. Too almost two weeks early. So like. Not prepared at all was not expecting her. At all. I was like, cool. Just.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah, that's hard.

Nicole (:

Awesome. This is great. I had...

Monica (:

⁓ man. Well,

Kelsie (:

This

seems like a good segue into the baby names. Is that what you're gonna say? ⁓

Monica (:

yeah. No, actually, no, I was going to say, I mean, this is a very fitting conversation just with, Mother's Day coming up and yeah, that too.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

It does though.

Kelsie (:

yeah, that too. We could go

Nicole (:

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That too.

Ashley (:

Yes.

Kelsie (:

two ways here.

Ashley (:

Yes.

Nicole (:

Mother's Day is coming up. I don't think we're doing much. I really don't. Justin's working. Yeah. I mean, we're the only ones here. Like none of our family is here, you know, it's just us. So. Well, I guess, but Justin has to work. So it's like.

Monica (:

with her mother's day.

Ashley (:

Ugh.

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

That means you just get to celebrate you.

Monica (:

Yeah, it's kind of, yeah, that is a bummer.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. That's not... Yeah, that sucks.

Monica (:

That

Ashley (:

That does suck.

Monica (:

is, that is a bummer. Yeah. It's, it's weird over here too. This year, actually not just this year, this happens, ⁓ like most years is that my oldest's birthday is in May. So it always overlaps like his birthday party. And so we joke around about how my boys steal all my holidays. Cause Jonah's birthday is the day before mine and then J5 takes Mother's Day. it's.

Nicole (:

⁓

you

funny.

Monica (:

It's real fun. But like, to me, it's not that big of a deal. Like we just plan like a different day and like my husband tries to make it special. And I don't know, like I just don't get all that attached to it. It's like, yeah, we'll have a day. As long as I have a day where like you're just taken over and I don't have to do a whole lot, then I'm good. I'm content. I don't care. But I was looking at Reddit like prepping for today just because you go to Reddit and just search Mother's Day.

Nicole (:

me either.

Yeah. Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Mmm.

Monica (:

And there

is a wild array of things that you're gonna get. There's the sweet husbands who are like, I need help, what do I do? And at least they're asking, like kudos to them for asking. But then there is so much drama. There's so much drama about it. And I get it, I do get it. But I also just wanna be like, let's all just like take a deep breath. Like take deep breath, let's just take a deep breath.

Nicole (:

I'm sure.

Ashley (:

Yeah, I'm sure.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

I know last year I saw multiple videos

where they were ⁓ like, it was like towards the mothers and the mother-in-laws, like the grandmas, it's like, sit down, you've had your turn, like it's our turn now. And I'm like, why do we have to go back and forth like this? Just like, do whatever.

Nicole (:

Okay, why do we have to do that?

Monica (:

Yeah, it's interesting,

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

like it's weaponized in a weird way. Like you see like the toxic mother-in-laws who are like, it's my day. And it's like, okay, but like also you're not the one running around chasing toddlers. And so like you chill for a sec, but then also like there's, yeah.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Nicole (:

you

Ashley (:

Yeah. Yeah.

Nicole (:

Your kid's

grown and I'm still teaching him things.

Kelsie (:

I can, I like fully see

both. I do think, I think there are so many like mother-in-laws that take it just, they're like, it's so bad. It's so bad. But there's also, it's like, if you, maybe this is specific to if you like your parents, I guess, but like, I didn't, ⁓ as a kid, you love your mom, but you don't fully understand the sacrifices your mother has made for you until you, I mean, I'm not saying you can't realize it before you become a mom, but I mean, you.

Monica (:

I, yeah, I.

So far. So far. It's disgusting.

Yeah.

Yes.

Kelsie (:

When you're a mom, like, no, God, like these are the, yes, like you fully understand. So then it's, yes, it's an extra appreciation for your own mother, but it's, I don't know I could just see both sides because like, obviously,

Nicole (:

It's different. You understand it. Yeah. You have an understanding of it,

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

We're in the trenches and it's fucking hard as shit. But also it's like when my mom was in the trenches, I didn't know I was making her life miserable. So like I would like to like make up for that now. Yeah.

Ashley (:

It was your fault. Yeah. I think it's like the expectation of it. It's like,

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

what

is, and that goes for mother-in-law, mother, even if you have young kids, like, and you have high expectations for your husband, it's all about like your expectation. And then if you don't get it, how you act in, in that instance, like if it's not exactly what you thought or wanted, it's like if...

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Yes.

Monica (:

Hmm.

Ashley (:

Like the whole people getting upset that they didn't get what they want or it wasn't enough. It's like as if it was your birthday and someone gave you a gift and you're like, that's actually not good enough. You didn't celebrate me enough. Like give me more. And that's when it's like, what the fuck? Yeah.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Okay.

Nicole (:

Like the audacity. Yeah.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

If you set

the bar really low, then you can't be disappointed.

Ashley (:

That's true.

Nicole (:

Yep, that's

very true.

Kelsie (:

Just set the bar lower.

Monica (:

Well, the other part of... Yeah.

Nicole (:

don't expect anything at all ever, like for any holiday or for anything really. It's just, you know, the people that are gonna show up for me are gonna show up for me and I'm gonna appreciate them and that's what it is. And ⁓ I think something like Mother's Day, Father's Day, like there are a lot of mothers and there are a lot of fathers. A ⁓ happy Mother's Day should be enough.

Kelsie (:

Yeah. Yeah.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

for sure.

Nicole (:

I thought of you, so I'm just want to appreciate you just with my words and say happy Mother's Day because I know you're a mother. That should be enough, I think, for most people.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

The only person I

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

really

expect anything from is my husband and I don't expect a lot. just would like some sort of gesture. It can be so small, but just something to acknowledge. That's it.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Yeah. Acknowledgement. Yes. Right. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yes.

Ashley (:

Yeah, I fully expect. Well, my husband already gave me my watch for Mother's Day because we're doing a race tomorrow. So he gave it to me early. But also, he's like really thoughtful and like really good with gifts and stuff, like better than I am. Really? Like I'm the one like Father's Day. I'm like, oh, God, I need to think like, what am I going to do? You know? Oh, it's hard. Sometimes it's hard.

Nicole (:

Yes. Thank you.

Yeah.

Yeah. I'm so, I'm horrible at gift giving, like horrible.

Monica (:

Ugh, figuring this out is so hard.

Kelsie (:

Gifts are my love language.

Gifts are my love language and they're not, but it's frustrating. It's very hard to be a gift love language when your husband is like the very, very opposite of that. So it's like, I put so much thought into gifts and then like, he is just so bad at it. And I don't, the thing about gifts is like, like.

Monica (:

Okay, well then you can help us with ideas this year, Kelsey.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

See?

Monica (:

Yeah

Nicole (:

Hehehehe

Ashley (:

Uh-huh.

Kelsie (:

the element of you picking it out or like, and so I don't want to go, he'll be like, well, let's just go shopping and I can buy what you want. I'm like, that's not, that's not it. That's that completely is not the aspect of the gift giving that no, no, no, no, I can go pick out my own thing. He's like, I don't. Yeah.

Ashley (:

⁓ yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a gift. Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm. All

Ashley (:

It's like you share money anyway, so

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

like going shopping and buying something, even if it's from you, like the same applies to a gift, I guess. But really, if you're shopping and you're using your shared debit card, it's like, yeah.

Nicole (:

right.

Kelsie (:

It's the thought that you put into it

Monica (:

Yes ⁓

Kelsie (:

You know the time you take to think ⁓ I think that she would even if it's a fucking piece of bubblegum like I'm really like it's just like that you thought ⁓ She would like this you know at Christmas he bought me a tumbler from Dutch Bros and as one of the very few presents that he like didn't he just did it he didn't like

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Hmm.

Kelsie (:

Second guess or like ask if I you know if I really like he didn't try Yes, yeah, it is a good gift and it's it's not extravagant It doesn't have to be but you did it on your own. I didn't have to hold your hand Yeah

Ashley (:

That was a good gift for you. You love Dutch Bros. That was a good one.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah, he thought about it. Yeah.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Yeah,

see me and Patrick are kind of opposite. He's always been a much better gift giver than me. But I think I've got I've gotten better. Like I used to be like. Really, really bad. Couldn't think of anything. Would try and get something. I used to try and like order stuff like, OK, this one time I ordered him a watch from Groupon. My God, I must have been like 19 when I did it. It was so terrible, but it came like right before the holiday and I gave it to him. He hated it. I think I returned it. ⁓ Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Thanks.

Monica (:

Oh no... Oh no...

Nicole (:

Thank

Kelsie (:

You tried though.

Monica (:

⁓

Kelsie (:

No, no,

Nicole (:

Hey, it's the thought that counts.

Monica (:

group hug. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

You did put effort into it though. For

a gift love-linguager, that does mean a lot.

Ashley (:

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. But yeah, on the Mother's Day thing, I just, I feel stressed about Mother's Day. I felt stressed about Mother's Day since like last month. Yeah, because I just like I've already gotten like invitations for things for like different families having plans, which like we're blessed to have lots of family and like

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

That's so funny.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

last week.

Ashley (:

You know, we have Patrick's side, my side, we have two moms, I have two grandmas still alive. ⁓ I have friends who kinda wanna do stuff for Mother's Day too, and so it's just like, and that's just me in general, having a bunch of plans starts to stress me out immediately, so then I get an invite for something and I'm like, whoa, my schedule's filling up. When is the me time, okay?

Nicole (:

too much. a lot.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

⁓ No! Pumped the brakes!

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Slow down!

Kelsie (:

Yeah,

yeah, it's not fun taking your kids to a bunch of different like things on the day that you guys very

Monica (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

No, it's actually hell. They don't wanna be there.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

You don't have kids stuff. They don't wanna eat what you're serving. Like, I will suffer. I will be suffering. If I go, I don't know. I actually don't know that I'm gonna do any of the things because I don't want to and I am mother, so maybe I won't.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

You're right. Yeah. And it's not your day to suffer, damn it.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Well, and that's just kind of it

Nicole (:

Yeah, it's your day

too!

Monica (:

is I feel like, like when I was saying, like, I feel like we all just like need to take a deep breath. Like it's not just that it's like, let's take a deep breath and realize that everybody should be allowed to kind of decide how they want to celebrate and not be so offended by it. It's like, you know, maybe just a quiet day at home and like not doing anything is exactly what, what we need. Like let it just be, you know.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Yeah. Yes.

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Maybe

this is a major stereotype, but I feel like a lot of the problems stem from boy moms. Like you always, when you hear somebody complaining, the mom of the boys, yeah, no, the mother-in-law. It's always like she expects, yeah.

Monica (:

the boy mother-in-law or like the younger mom.

Okay, yeah.

Nicole (:

Thank God my mother-in-law is chill. My

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm

Nicole (:

mother-in-law is

very chill. Fortunately.

Monica (:

Yeah, mine is too, fortunately. But it is

like the trend you hear. like, the Reddit stories I saw were things like that, where it's like the husband's mom is the one that is just so offended by the daughter-in-law wanting to not celebrate with them or wanting to not go and do something. And it's like, man, like we are in the trenches. Maybe like we just don't want to do anything. And it's exhausting.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm taking my kids anywhere

Ashley (:

I

wouldn't say I've experienced the specific like boy moms being more expectant. But I do think there's a general everyone around has expectations and then it's stressful.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah,

Kelsie (:

For the most part, I just feel like what I see on social

Monica (:

there's so many expectations.

Kelsie (:

media, it's like always a boy mom situation.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

So I do kind of wonder this though,

Nicole (:

So funny.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

because I feel like each year the intensity of these posts just gets higher and higher and worse and worse. And so I almost wonder, are we perpetuating our own problem? Because it's like, 15 years ago, this wouldn't have really been anything so publicly put out there. And so I'm not saying that maybe these weren't issues before, because they definitely were, right?

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Probably.

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

But is it that they've always been this way or is it that like it's just so publicly out there? Now we're like, yeah, that's what it is.

Ashley (:

People are just talking about it so much. It's now a stereotype.

Kelsie (:

Well,

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

to some degree, it's also probably more that moms now are, we're talking worldwide about, you know, we're acknowledging, yeah, we all don't like this. Yeah, we all don't want to be hurting our children around all day on a day that's supposed to be about like us.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yes. Yeah, we're like, wait a minute. What are you doing over there? Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

Yeah, so we're all just like banding

arms. like, yeah, we don't like this.

Kelsie (:

So it's more just like

a universal like understanding that, I'm not the only one that hates doing this. And so that feels more justified to complain about and be like, I don't want to do this. Whereas maybe our moms just sucked it up and did it because it was what was expected of them. Yeah. ⁓

Monica (:

Yeah. Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

They just suffered in silence. Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah, yeah, it probably

was. Yeah, a lot of just like, well, no one else is saying anything about it. So I guess I'm going to suck it up.

Kelsie (:

I feel like we used to have group

Mother's Day family get togethers. Obviously as a kid it seemed fine.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

That's why I saying, we were talking in the chat kind of about

this and I was like, man, I wish we just all lived together, like in the same state so that we could do our own like Mother's Day brunch or something and it could be Loki and whatever. then we could just move on with our lives afterwards. Like throw all the kids in a backyard somewhere, someone's backyard and let them play with like a hose or something and turn on sprinkler. We can all chill out. Like, yeah, like that sounds like a great Mother's Day to me. Have the men cook something and.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

a sprinkler, turn on a sprinkler, it'll be fun.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Hmm.

For real.

Ashley (:

That would be

ideal. Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Sounds like a dream.

Nicole (:

That sounds great. One day, one day, guys,

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

one

Ashley (:

Yeah, someday.

Nicole (:

day. Speaking of kids, ⁓ you have baby names, Monica, don't you?

Monica (:

Yeah, so this is from a couple weeks ago from my husband. So again, pure warning, he likes to write letters and I'm not allowed to read them. So it's just his joy of getting to make me embarrassed and giggle and all the things. So I don't know what's on here.

Nicole (:

He graced us with more.

Ashley (:

you

Nicole (:

I James's

love language is embarrassing you in some way or another. He's like, I'm going to write you these silly little letters and make you say them on your podcast. This is his way. This is his way. Yeah.

Monica (:

yeah yeah yeah

Ashley (:

No, think James wants to be on the podcast. James wants to be in the podcast, but he's too shy to... But he's also got this weird... Yeah, he's like hiding himself.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

He wants to be a ghost member.

He's a ghost member because remember he doesn't exist, but also

he exists. Actually, he's still not meta.

Kelsie (:

Yeah

Ashley (:

No, I still haven't.

Kelsie (:

Maybe, maybe

we could hurry up and pick a real name so that he can, you know, let go of his job of like, you know, he feels his duty is to name these kids.

Monica (:

Just take a step back. my.

Ashley (:

⁓ did you already read the name? Are you laughing? ⁓

Monica (:

Just,

yep, there's that first name. It's starting off real strong.

Ashley (:

Wait, also, it should be noted that Kelsey's cat is pregnant, and maybe some of these names could be used for the kitten.

Nicole (:

Okay, give it to us, I need to hear it.

⁓ yeah!

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

yeah, is it confirmed? Is she pregnant?

Kelsie (:

We'll just, she is as big as a fucking double wide right now. She just blew up. I kicked her out of the room because she's very, she's just like all, she's like, she's all up in my business. She's purring like a fucking, yeah. I'm like, yeah.

Ashley (:

Can you bring her? I want to see her on camera. Where is she? Damn it. She's moody. She's emotional. She's hormonal.

Mm-hmm freight train. Yeah. Yeah

Monica (:

⁓ man.

Kelsie (:

Anyways, yeah, noticed that her nipples were a little more nippily and then she started getting fat. And this all happened in like a matter of like two weeks. Like she's just gone from normal to like she's a blimp.

Monica (:

man.

Nicole (:

Hehehehe

Ashley (:

Man, if she's not pregnant, you're

really being mean to her. You're really putting her on blast.

Kelsie (:

If she's not pregnant

Monica (:

Ha

Nicole (:

If she's not pregnant,

Monica (:

Seriously,

Kelsie (:

then

Monica (:

you are giving her some pregnancy shame? Are you fat shaming your cat?

Kelsie (:

she has like... Yeah, someone else is feeding her if she's gotten this fat. Yeah, she's... Now you're gonna make me sound like a bad. No, ⁓ I'm gonna get shit from the animal people. I told Trevor to stop letting her outside. I was like...

Nicole (:

someone else is feeding her.

Ashley (:

you

Monica (:

feel like you just got this cat. Like wasn't she just a kitten? She's just a baby!

Nicole (:

She's just a baby, yeah,

Ashley (:

Now she's having

Nicole (:

I

Ashley (:

kittens.

Nicole (:

swear.

Ashley (:

She had her out. Kelsey had her out there in the streets getting mounted and she's just a baby.

Kelsie (:

He kept putting her out like during the day and I'm like, just stop doing that. Like leave, no, I was 90 % sure she was, I've never had like a cat. So I didn't know what he looked like. But I was like, I'm pretty sure she's in heat. I need you to stop shoving her outside. This is his fault. I also didn't know. I'm just uneducated about cats, I guess. Erase all of this.

Nicole (:

It is driver's fault.

Monica (:

Okay, well, here's

Ashley (:

Well, I'll be happy to blame Trevor, but.

Monica (:

some very interesting names for your future kittens, perhaps.

Nicole (:

Selfless no!

Ashley (:

Duh.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, these are all good kidneys.

Ashley (:

Yes.

Nicole (:

Future

kittens right kittens not children kittens ⁓

Kelsie (:

Yeah, not my child.

Monica (:

Especially, I

mean, this one is supposed to be this first one. Like we are starting off so strong. ⁓ it's a boy name though. So it's definitely not on the table for you to use. ⁓

Nicole (:

Okay, so not for a baby.

Ashley (:

What? No.

Kelsie (:

Maybe

Nicole (:

Not

Cletus! This is LeCore-Iolainus fuckin' chat all over again. I cannot.

Kelsie (:

it's pronounced cleatest.

Monica (:

Maybe. Maybe it's Cletus,

Ashley (:

⁓ my god.

Monica (:

but it's definitely not spelled that way. So whoever this child is, that's the pronunciation. They will be eating forever. Like, I'm just picturing, like, growing up, we had flag ceremony, like, every other Friday or something like that. And like, you know, it's student of the month or whatever. And sometimes the teachers would know how to pronounce the kids' names. And like, I'm just imagining this poor child and that poor teacher. Just, ugh.

Nicole (:

Okay, that's Bob.

Ashley (:

Hard pass, no.

Kelsie (:

This is like Key and Peele.

A-Aron.

Nicole (:

Hey, Aaron, palake, palake.

Monica (:

I-I-I know. ⁓

Ashley (:

I love that. ⁓ I love that.

Kelsie (:

Jake Wellen.

Monica (:

Okay, so this one I know he added he told me ⁓ but So he added it specifically for the spelling not because the name because it's maverick, which we love maverick, but it spells M-H-A-V-R-Y-C-H So just process that one

Nicole (:

Why? ⁓

Monica (:

Ha!

Nicole (:

See, this adding letters where letters don't need to be...

Ashley (:

It's confusing.

Monica (:

Now that I'm teaching my kids and we do phonograms, right? And so now it's very fresh in my brain and I'm like, does it work this way?

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

Nope.

Ashley (:

It's

not supposed to be.

Kelsie (:

I'm telling you,

people are like, I want to give my kid a unique name, but I like the regular name, so I'm gonna spell it uniquely.

Monica (:

okay, so next name.

Ashley (:

Yeah,

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

my god, yeah.

Monica (:

next name

on the list, unique, spelled y-u-n-i-q-u-e

Nicole (:

Oh, oh no. god. Why?

Ashley (:

The name.

Nicole (:

Why? Did you say Y-U-N? U? U... U...

Ashley (:

I've seen that, no, I've seen that name being used before. You, you-nique.

Monica (:

Yeah, Y-U-N-I-Q-U-E. Yeah.

Ashley (:

I don't know

Kelsie (:

It's not the worst,

Ashley (:

that that's gonna.

Kelsie (:

but it's just...

Monica (:

It's not the worst, but it's like spelling is just so difficult. ⁓ Next one, how it's spelled, it should be pronounced Jammy, but it's pronounced Jamie, apparently. Jammy, Jammy, Jammy. ⁓

Nicole (:

This

is weird.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, yeah.

Ashley (:

I don't, it doesn't, it's...

Nicole (:

Weird.

Ashley (:

Jammy.

Nicole (:

Yeah, jammy, okay. A little jammy. A little jam jams. So cute.

Ashley (:

I love Jammie. Let's name her Jammie. Little Jammies.

Kelsie (:

Little jimmy. Little...

jim-jim.

Monica (:

The next one is Mazen, apparently because the mom felt Mazen after this boy was born. And his note to me, you did not feel Mazen after any of our kids were born, so they got regular names.

Ashley (:

amazing.

Nicole (:

⁓ my... ⁓

Ashley (:

Mazin.

Amazing.

Kelsie (:

It

Nicole (:

So they got regular names.

Kelsie (:

wasn't that terrible right off the bat, but James can make anything bad I think Like Mason it's like oh, okay like if I heard a kid who's like oh, it's Mason I'd be like oh, okay, you know that's different, but it's not bad

Nicole (:

Yeah, yeah, yep.

Ashley (:

Yeah, it gets worse and worse.

Nicole (:

Alright, Maison, yeah. Like Mason,

Monica (:

Yeah. Yeah,

until you hear the story and you're like, they felt mazin.

Nicole (:

but not right. ⁓ man.

Kelsie (:

until you let James get a hold of it and twist it around.

Ashley (:

That

bitch was high.

Kelsie (:

You

Nicole (:

That bitch was so high. I feel amazing. Actually do have a friend her her name was supposed to be America and her father was drunk in the hospital and her mother was obviously like you know out of her mind because she just gave birth and

Kelsie (:

I feel amazing.

Monica (:

Yeah, I feel

amazing. What with that?

Ashley (:

Leave of that.

Nicole (:

So they asked the dad to like write the name down and he missed a lot of letters. So her name is Amira, not America. And that is what just what her name is. No, it's not. It came out fine, but lucky for her. But her name was actually, I don't know. I swear. She's like, my dad was drunk.

Ashley (:

Mmm.

that might be better. How drunk? No, stop. No. How drunk do you have to be

Monica (:

actually at the worst though.

Ashley (:

to write a Myra instead of America? Is that what it is? A Myra? No, I don't even believe it. I've been drunk a lot of times and I would have never done that. That's dumb. He shouldn't, maybe he should have been in hospital.

Nicole (:

I... Yeah, it's a Myra.

Monica (:

I don't.

Kelsie (:

I

Monica (:

well, you guys are on a roll here

Nicole (:

I don't know.

Kelsie (:

I'm sorry, if Trevor was drunk I would have

been like, you can just not be here. Sorry.

Monica (:

Right?

Nicole (:

don't know

Ashley (:

Yeah,

Nicole (:

why

Ashley (:

the baby's out and you're still so drunk that you can't write America? No.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

that happened. I don't know why that happened. But yeah, homie was drunk.

Kelsie (:

When it gets close to

like baby time, I'm like, you're not allowed like you're not allowed to even. No, I mean, Trevor doesn't like really drink or get drunk that much. But still, like if it's I, I'm like, no, sorry, we're within like the two week time zone. You're you're like on a one drink like

Monica (:

Yeah, you better be sober because you have to drive me. You gotta get me there.

Ashley (:

Who's gonna drive? Yeah.

Nicole (:

I don't know how it happened.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nope. Yeah.

Nicole (:

That's the story.

It could be a story, but that's the story. That's what I was told.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah, interesting. Well, you guys are

Ashley (:

You

Monica (:

on a roll. Like we've got a connection here going right now because one of the names on the girls list is Merica. And he wrote, and he wrote, only a true patriot would name their child Merica. Challenge. And he wrote that for Trevor.

Kelsie (:

god.

Ashley (:

America, America...

Nicole (:

Merk-uh.

Ashley (:

Ooh, it's right up Trevor's alley.

Don't tell Trevor. Don't tell Trevor.

Nicole (:

challenge. Don't tell.

Kelsie (:

He's yeah, I

Nicole (:

Hey.

Kelsie (:

I specifically did not encourage him to listen to the last name thing just out of just out of safety like I I I feel like we were pretty safe. Listen, okay. This is a good time to discuss some of the names. Okay. This is not a shit on anybody that has these names. I'm not saying I hate these names. No, I truly there's there they're okay names, but I just don't

Ashley (:

Didn't want him to get any ideas.

Monica (:

Don't let them listen

to this one or you're gonna have a baby girl named Marika.

Ashley (:

Yes it is.

Nicole (:

She's judging you.

Kelsie (:

They're not anything I ever imagined, okay? He came to me one day with three different names. Liberty, Justice, and Victory. For all.

Ashley (:

my god, dude.

Monica (:

He is a true patriot. We love our military.

Nicole (:

You can add Merica to the list, please.

And it'll go with the rest of your names, because you have Madison Maverick. You need Merica. I'm sorry. You do.

Ashley (:

At America.

Kelsie (:

I can't, I can't, I can't. Because

Ashley (:

Merkka.

Kelsie (:

the second she said that I was like, no, he would actually like that. So he can never hear this. He can never hear this. It's okay, I don't think he listens unless I tell him to, so it's fine.

Monica (:

Yeah.

we blocked Trevor from the podcast.

Nicole (:

Ha!

That's funny.

Kelsie (:

No, but yeah, I like there are those aren't bad names the Liberty just they're just not I just don't I don't I did never intended to have a full like theme I don't need an name. I didn't attend like a military theme It just is the way so far that it's happened in we're not to making it a whole thing with the third one. Okay

Monica (:

And turn off the ones you envision.

Nicole (:

happened.

Ashley (:

It really puts you over the edge when

you hear those three together, too. It makes each one individually sound worse when the options are those three.

Monica (:

Yeah, Mattis Maverick America.

Kelsie (:

Yes. ⁓

Yes. Yes.

Monica (:

Well, and the thing is, is

like when we say it, Merica, like we're all saying it jokingly, like just kind of hick, like, like Merica, you know, like what is it? Yeah. Whatever. ⁓

Kelsie (:

Merca, yeah. And that's the problem,

Nicole (:

It's Marka.

Ashley (:

But America Ferrera,

her name is America and I think her, she pulls it off. I actually think it's a good, it's not a bad name.

Kelsie (:

yeah. Yeah. It's a- it's not- no, she does pull it off. It's not a bad name.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

America would say but America

Nicole (:

but was gonna say...

Monica (:

is pretty murka

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

yeah. Merica not pretty. Merica is pretty.

Kelsie (:

Even if you could separate

yourself from the situation, even Merica isn't that bad. But the problem is, that now it is, I have a shirt in my closet that literally says Merica. Like, I don't, I can't, we have to draw the line somewhere. It would be pretty, actually. It's not the worst thing I've ever heard, but it's just too, we're too, no.

Nicole (:

Yeah, no, it's actually pretty.

Monica (:

Exactly! Exactly! That's my point! ⁓

Nicole (:

Hahaha

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Yeah,

it's too, it's gonna be too abused.

Monica (:

⁓ So, so abused, yeah.

Yep, yep, okay.

Nicole (:

my gosh, Kelsey and

I had a side conversation yesterday because of a book. And what was the name? Clemency, it was Clemency. Clemency, it's like felony, it would be a pretty name if it didn't have a meaning to it.

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Kelsie (:

Yes, and I was like, this is like felony.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

Ha

Right? If it didn't have a description in the dictionary that we did not like. Yeah. Lamentine is cute.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

You could do Clementine.

Nicole (:

Tyne, it's so cute.

Ashley (:

a little baby orange.

Nicole (:

I'm in Tyne at the door.

Kelsie (:

Trevor tried,

one of Trevor's earlier suggestions was magnolia. And it's like that, and I was like, if it gets shortened, that's like, not a fan, like.

Ashley (:

Mm.

Nicole (:

I don't hate it.

Monica (:

It's just a lot to say. It's a long name. Maggie. Mags.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Maggie?

Nicole (:

No. You can do- No,

Ashley (:

Meg?

Nicole (:

you do NOLA.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm. Oh, Nola would be cute.

Kelsie (:

That's... I

was like, yeah, but then... As I get older, sometimes people decide what to get shortened to at school and you have very little like say and... I don't know.

Monica (:

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Nicole (:

no you don't.

always told, I straight up told people, don't call me that. You call me that, I won't talk to you.

Kelsie (:

I believe that because you are you but if it was me I would have been like yeah you call me whatever you want. Scratch fine. You want to call me shit stain go for it.

Monica (:

Yeah, I do believe that. Right? It's fine, I don't care.

Nicole (:

Nope. I- I-

I hate the nickname.

Ashley (:

you

Nicole (:

extreme damn people pleaser get out of here

Ashley (:

⁓ no, have we uncovered a childhood

trauma?

Monica (:

Childhood trauma is unraveling before your eyes.

Kelsie (:

No one called me that.

Nicole (:

my god, hilarious.

Kelsie (:

It's fairly popular

nobody called me shitstain, but Jesus

Nicole (:

⁓

Ashley (:

you

Nicole (:

must be nice. No, I'm just kidding anyway

Monica (:

Alright, well I got a few more.

Kelsie (:

I went to a school with like eight people. It's not hard to be popular

Nicole (:

Okay. No, I just really hated the nickname Nikki because my mom actually almost named me that and then she was like, well, it's not gonna be cute when she's 60 years old and people are still calling her Nikki or like that's kind of a stripper name. So no.

Kelsie (:

you

Monica (:

think it still would be. But I get that.

Kelsie (:

This is kind

of leaning into some of the baby actual real baby name conversations we've been having lately. It's just like, is it cute when it's cute as a baby? Will it be cute when she's an adult? That's some of the issues that we're having.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

All right.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yes. Okay. Well, so here's your next choice.

Nicole (:

Yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. great.

Monica (:

Hellzel. H-E-L-L-Z-E-L. Hellzel. Hellzel. I don't even know if I'm saying that right, because it feels like I'm mouthful.

Nicole (:

Hellzoo. I feel like, I feel like

Kelsie (:

This is like.

Nicole (:

if you're like Dutch, you can pull that off. If, if you're some...

Monica (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

say it with an accent, maybe it'll be better.

Nicole (:

different?

Yeah, I don't know. ⁓

Kelsie (:

This is like the Hunger Games conversation we had where if you- this is a good time to ask. If you read the Hunger Games, was Gail's mom's name Hazel or Hazel?

Monica (:

It just, yeah, not here.

⁓ yeah.

Nicole (:

Hazel or Hazel? Because

I'm gonna lose my mind.

Monica (:

Well, not just Gail's mom,

let's talk about President Snow. I'm still pissed about that.

Nicole (:

Okay, need, I need, I need one

Kelsie (:

Okay, one thing at a

time because I always read it as Hazel and assumed it was Hazel.

Nicole (:

thing, well, I need an answer for that. So did I.

Monica (:

Okay. So, so two, two

questions. Is it Hazel or Hazel and President Snow? Is it Cornelius or I don't even, what is it? She's just so terrible.

Nicole (:

What's his name?

Kelsie (:

Coriolanus.

Ashley (:

Coriolanus?

Nicole (:

Toriolanus.

Okay.

Ashley (:

I do have the Hunger Games books. Should I pull them out? Did Gina ever get to it?

Kelsie (:

Yes.

Nicole (:

I had,

Gina did, and she didn't see it in the first one, but she found it in the third one, it only says it one time, and it is Coriolanus.

Monica (:

Did we all just collectively,

did we all just collectively look at the name and go, I don't know how to pronounce that. He's Cornelius now.

Nicole (:

Cornelius? Yes.

Ashley (:

Yeah, because that's not a fucking name.

Kelsie (:

That's

Nicole (:

Yes. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

what I said yesterday. I'm like, if you were reading it, it was back before audiobooks were super popular. So it's like, you probably just read it and you're like, looks like Cornelius. We're going with Cornelius.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

you

Auto-correct. Yep. Yep. Auto-correct.

Ashley (:

You would have. That's what

Monica (:

I don't know

Ashley (:

happened.

Monica (:

how else to say it so corny-alias it is.

Nicole (:

That one. Yeah. Nope. Nope.

Ashley (:

We did. Yeah, there was no book talk talking about it and we weren't audiobooking it. So we just read what we wanted to read apparently. Damn, we...

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah. All right, so we're going to put

Nicole (:

Apparently.

Monica (:

a poll

out. Let's hear what the listeners say. But here's your next one, Kelsey. ⁓ miracle. And James wrote, hallelujah.

Ashley (:

my God.

Kelsie (:

Praise Jesus! Praise be!

Nicole (:

A miracle hallelujah. That's a cute name, a miracle hallelujah boyd. There we go.

Monica (:

⁓

and then miracle. ⁓ miracle.

Ashley (:

America, hallelujah boy.

Kelsie (:

Miracle.

Trevor

is definitely not listening to this episode at all. He's banned.

Nicole (:

A A miracle hallelujah boy, that's her name.

Monica (:

⁓ Next

one. Gosh, I hope this was just like a typo on the birth certificate.

Aliza breath

Ashley (:

Elizabeth

That dad was drunk too.

Nicole (:

At it's, wait,

at least it's breath and not breast because that would be...

Monica (:

That's true.

Ashley (:

Alizebreast.

Monica (:

⁓

Kelsie (:

can't wait to come on here once I've actually chosen a name and tell you all the names that were in the ready. To just get some, okay. Okay.

Monica (:

Alright, well, so I've got one final name for you and

the name itself is not the problem again. The name is Olivia, but but it's spelled A-L-I-V-I-Y-A-H and then James wrote pronounced as Olivia, but cool.

Nicole (:

Olivia.

Ashley (:

Wow.

Wait, wow.

Monica (:

Naming a human being is such a huge deal. Like it's so much pressure. I totally get like you want it to be unique. You want it to be special. You want it just to fit them. But like sometimes...

Nicole (:

pressure.

Ashley (:

It is. ⁓

Kelsie (:

I think everybody has their own taste and their own

things and that's fine. I just don't know if I'm that creative. I want it to be a little different but I don't want it to be like crazy different.

Nicole (:

to each their own.

Monica (:

I hate this.

Nicole (:

Yeah. Yeah.

Ashley (:

Crazy. Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

I saw this.

Monica (:

Well, and yeah, some of these aren't even that bad. It's just you really, they really got creative with those spellings. Yeah.

Nicole (:

Personally, personally, really, I

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

No, that's too much. Please don't do that.

Nicole (:

actually really like Miracle Hallelujah. So Miracle Hallelujah Boy.

Monica (:

⁓ miracle.

Kelsie (:

A miracle. It's

like an ah-choo!

Ashley (:

Are you...

Well, maybe you can save that one in case you get pregnant again, Nicole. Mickey. ⁓ Miracle. No, I can only think of Miracle Whip every time you say it, so.

Monica (:

So.

Yeah, miracle.

Nicole (:

yeah, miracle, hallelujah.

Kelsie (:

I'm an Oracle.

Monica (:

Yes!

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

I

I'm pretty sure I know somebody named Miracle or knew somebody named Miracle back in like my high school days. And I also knew, knew in elementary school, I knew a girl named Princess. I was like, okay, that's an expectation.

Ashley (:

I believe it. Yeah, no, I think so. ⁓

Monica (:

Yeah, I think I've known someone named Miracle before.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. there was a girl at my school named

Raindrop? Raindrop New Moon something else. I don't remember her full name, but yeah, no, I swear.

Nicole (:

cute.

No, she wasn't. You're lying to me.

Kelsie (:

There was

Nicole (:

Stop it.

Kelsie (:

a girl that used to come to our church and her name was Angel and she was not an angel. That was the problem with that name is that she was like the opposite of an angel.

Monica (:

That says so much about her family.

Ashley (:

Yes, it does. I've known angels.

Nicole (:

Yeah, I know I've I've known a few angels both boy

Monica (:

Ha

Nicole (:

Also,

like half of my family is Puerto Rican and I feel like angels are fairly common, kind of ⁓ Latin, Latino name. Yeah. So.

Ashley (:

Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah,

no, I don't hate the name. I just think it's funny when it's ironic, like when it's ironic. Like, I named my kid Angel and she acts like a little shithead. Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah. It's ironic. Yeah.

Ashley (:

Yes.

Nicole (:

See, that's asking for trouble, yeah. That's like the princess. Yeah, that's like the princess thing. Thankfully, princess

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

was nice, but I was like, that's an expectation that you're setting the bar quite high for behavioral issues.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, truly. I saw this.

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

I saw this reel the other day. It was like the it had the little image on it. It was like a 90s mom in a jumpsuit. And she's like walking like this. You know, have you seen that one? That lady? She's like walking like this. And it's like all the moms in the 90s leaving the hospital after naming their kids like basically like our names, you know, like Ashley, Kelsey, Nicole, like Stephanie, like all the and she's just like, you know, they all just

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Not our names, I was about to say...

Monica (:

yeah, they're like, yeah, we're unique.

Kelsie (:

I feel

like

Ashley (:

They have a list of 25 names and they're like, yes, that one.

Kelsie (:

When our

s leaving the hospital in the:

Nicole (:

Yeah, yes, yes.

Ashley (:

Yeah ⁓

Monica (:

Gosh, that or the Brayden, Zayden, Aiden, Hayden, whatever. The Aiden's, yeah.

Nicole (:

Yeah, all the Aiden's.

Ashley (:

I love a boy name for a girl. I had a girl, she'd have a boy name.

Nicole (:

So do I.

Monica (:

You too.

Ashley (:

Actually, she'd probably have a, I don't know.

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Again, that's why I was named the name that I am, because my mom likes boy names for girl names. she was like, if we name her Nicole, we can just call her Nick. And that is what happened. So yeah, there's all kinds of variations of this. But there was also no creativity.

Ashley (:

Hmm.

Monica (:

There it is. Yeah, I didn't have a name for two weeks after I was born, so there's that.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Kelsie (:

My-

I was almost a randy with an eye.

Ashley (:

my god.

Nicole (:

Randy.

Ashley (:

Ew.

Nicole (:

⁓ okay. Randy.

Monica (:

A Randy?

Kelsie (:

with an

Monica (:

I

Kelsie (:

eye.

Monica (:

was, well, I was supposed to be a boy. My parents thought I was a boy. Like that's what the doctor said. I was going to be a boy. Thank God I wasn't because we lived in a freaking 500 square foot house and sharing a room with my sisters like that would have been no go. Um, but yeah, I was supposed to be named after my grandparents. I was going to be John Jerome. And then I was born and they were like, surprise. And they're like, shit, we don't have a name. So I literally went home from the hospital without a name.

Nicole (:

Mmm!

Mm-hmm.

yeah, that would have been inconvenient.

Ashley (:

Wow.

Monica (:

had no name for two weeks until the hospital was like, you have to name her because we have to submit the birth certificate. Well, you have to come up with something or her birth certificate will say baby girl. ⁓

Nicole (:

⁓

Kelsie (:

you

Your name is gonna be ba- my god, baby girl, that's hilarious. Baby girl, our little bb L. Batty.

Ashley (:

My god.

Nicole (:

Could you imagine that would be your name? Baby girl.

Monica (:

I've looked it up and it's happened. there's girls and...

Ashley (:

I bet it has.

Nicole (:

BBLBET

Monica (:

Right?

Ashley (:

Wait, why

did you say the name? What was the boy name though? John? I think I would like to call you that. John Jerome. John Jerome.

Monica (:

John Jerome.

Nicole (:

John Jerome! That's a- that's a mouthful, John Jerome.

Kelsie (:

I have to s-

Monica (:

I know, it's my two grand-

Yeah, John Jerome.

Kelsie (:

I have to

shit on my mom a little bit though about this because she has repeatedly, she'll still get heated about talking about this, how her mom didn't like the name, my older brother, one of my brothers is Jordan, and she didn't like the name because she thought it was a girl name. First of all, I know way more boy Jordans than girl Jordans, but that really pissed my mom off that my grandma didn't like the name, whatever, or was rude about it, whatever. My mother.

Nicole (:

Ha ha ha ha!

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

So do I.

Kelsie (:

Miss ma'am has no problem voicing her disgust for names I just like I've been very tight-lipped about my names this go-around because it's like if I decide I like it I don't want to hear if you don't like it but And I'm like mom. How is that different than grandma? She's like well. She said it after I already named her and I'm like Yeah, had to not be able to see like how

Monica (:

You

Ashley (:

Yeah, opinions.

Nicole (:

Trevor went rogue though and told her.

Monica (:

Right. Just shut up and accept it. ⁓

Nicole (:

So?

Monica (:

No!

Ashley (:

That's such a mom thing to do.

Monica (:

Right?

Nicole (:

That's so funny.

Ashley (:

Yes.

Yes.

Nicole (:

That's so

Kelsie (:

It's like, it's the same

Nicole (:

funny.

Kelsie (:

thing, mom.

Monica (:

It's like the trend of like, you'll see like the TikToks and stuff about how like the older generations like will tell a story and our parents are like, that didn't happen. You're like, yes it did. Like that's exactly what happened when you were doing it.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Yeah

Kelsie (:

There's ⁓

a particular name that you guys know that's on the table right now. And I was all for it. The group was all for it. It's what they named her. And then I backed out. was like, I actually don't know about this. We have to take 10 steps back on this. I'm unsure. It's one of these names where I'm like, I'm not sure it's an adult name. It's a cute baby name. I'm not sure it's an adult name. Yeah. Trevor, who didn't want anything to do with the name in the beginning, has now decided that it's a great name. It's his number one name.

Nicole (:

Hmm.

Monica (:

We love it.

Ashley (:

And I'm with you on that.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

I think it totally can be.

Nicole (:

I agree. Yes, we agree, but still we love it.

Kelsie (:

We're naming the baby this." And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Well, he said it in front of my mom, which I've been very careful not to do because I knew she wouldn't like the name. It was definitely a name I was going to take to labor if we decided to go with it. And he said it front of her and she's like, God, no, please don't name her anything. Anything's better.

Ashley (:

Ha ha.

Ha ha ha.

Monica (:

in.

Kelsie (:

So yeah, so now that

Ashley (:

Please

no.

Nicole (:

Please no, it's the pleading, drama.

Kelsie (:

the drama. was very dramatic. was like,

literally, she tried to think of all the names that she's ever told me she hated. She's like, that's this name is better. Like, it's fine. Like I would take this.

Monica (:

She's negotiating the names. ⁓

Kelsie (:

Yes,

Ashley (:

my god.

Kelsie (:

yes, she's negotiating the names. I'm like, mom, really, it's fine. Like, I'm not sold on it anymore, so just calm down. If I do backtrack to it, I'm not gonna tell you.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

You need to hit her with like a hitter with something she would really hate even more so that then she backs up to that one just so you can put it back on the table. Give her. Yeah. give her James's list.

Kelsie (:

I will not be sharing it.

Monica (:

Yeah. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, I... She'd be... It's hard to predict...

Nicole (:

Merka! Merka!

Yeah. Yeah.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, it's hard to predict what she'd hate though because like I knew she would hate that one but like there are some... She might like that. She probably liked that better. I should... I I should... She'll send me text messages like this long of just names and some of them are... Yeah, I'm like... Yeah. Yeah.

Monica (:

Give her a little breath.

Ashley (:

I'm losing breath.

Nicole (:

Aliza breast, give her that one.

⁓ My mom did that to you. My mom did that to you. Just because

I was so stuck. So everybody was sending me names.

Monica (:

Just, just... Yeah. It does go to show that like,

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

we all have like such different tastes with names It's very interesting.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, yeah, taste is true.

Names are truly like very unique to your taste and that's okay.

Monica (:

Yeah. I think

Ashley (:

with

Monica (:

at the

end of the day, you just have to like, as the parent, like when you say it, can you connect with it and feel like I can every single day when I'm like, there's such a squishy little adorable baby. I want to eat him up and like also clean up your shit. And I'm so angry at you. Can you say it in those circumstances?

Kelsie (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

That's, yeah.

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

Hmm.

Kelsie (:

And it's funny, because like, don't, I've not even met this kid. And I was like, I can share this. If we name her this, it'd be fine. I kind of doubt we will, but we'll see. I said that we would name this, if I had a girl for years, I've said we would name her Sawyer. I've just was adamant about that years. When we have a girl, her name will be Sawyer. It is what it is. Like pretty much early on from the second we realized it was a girl, was like, I don't think, I don't.

Nicole (:

Mm-hmm.

Ashley (:

Mmm.

Mm-hmm.

Monica (:

You just feel it. Yeah. It is so cute.

Nicole (:

I don't think I like Sawyer. It is.

Kelsie (:

I don't feel it. It is so cute, but I just like, I just like, I don't feel like it's

Ashley (:

That is such a cute name though. It's not hers.

Kelsie (:

her name. I haven't met her, but I just don't feel like she's his lawyer.

Ashley (:

Yeah. It's weird how that happens. Yeah, so you can just kind of tell.

Nicole (:

That's funny. ⁓ One of my childhood

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

It's so funny like

Ashley (:

That's funny.

Monica (:

That's hilarious.

Kelsie (:

People are like, people keep saying that. They're

like, when she comes out, maybe you'll know. maybe, I'm like, how do people wait till they come out? Like I feel like, I don't know. I just can't imagine.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Yeah.

Monica (:

We were that way, actually with.

Yeah, we were that way with Jonah. We were torn between Jonah and Rhett. like, we had pretty much decided on Jonah. But like, I still love that name. Yeah, I still love it. But like, we were pretty much decided. But even like going into labor, was like, I don't know. I don't know. And then he was born. He was made to be little Jonah. And that was just it. So like, I think you do kind of just feel it.

Ashley (:

No, I need to be prepared, yeah.

Nicole (:

like Rett. Stop. That's cute. ⁓

Yep. Sometimes you'd, I think

having like, you know, a couple like options is probably okay. I did not do that. I chose one for each of them and that's what they were.

Kelsie (:

I'm already like,

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

I'm 25 weeks and I'm at the point where it's like, I feel anxious that I don't like have anything to call her. I'm like, I know.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm. I know.

Ashley (:

you have so much time. It's gonna

Nicole (:

You still have quite a little

bit of time to go, but yeah.

Ashley (:

come to you before you get into the hospital. It will. You'll find it.

Kelsie (:

I know we will

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

come to a decision, like, I'm just saying, can't imagine, the people that keep saying like, oh, maybe once you see her and I'm like, how, I can't wait that long. I can't wait that long to come to a decision. I can't.

Ashley (:

Okay, yeah, yeah. It's back

Monica (:

I know.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

to, the lunatics who don't know the gender before the baby's born. No, no, no.

Nicole (:

Hehehehehe

Kelsie (:

my friend's doing that right now. One of my friends, she

has a boy and a girl. So she's got one of each.

Nicole (:

She just like, whatever.

Monica (:

It was,

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

I was tempted to, but I'm too much of a planner. I was just like, no, I need to know. I need to know what is happening in life.

Ashley (:

I get it, but I couldn't,

Kelsie (:

I think that if I had one

of each, I could try to do it. don't know if I would be successful, but I would want to try. But I also just like to know things.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm. ⁓

Monica (:

Yeah, think by, right, yeah,

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Monica (:

by our third, we'd already had two boys and we both were really hoping for a girl. So I don't think there was a chance that we could have waited and like have that, that anticipation for it. And even then, when we did find out that we were having a girl, I checked that ultrasound throughout the entire pregnancy. I was like, is it really, is it really? Cause it happened to my parents. Like what if.

Nicole (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

No, no, no.

Ashley (:

Cause you're like, but what if you never know when it's a girl?

Nicole (:

Well, that happened to your parents.

Kelsie (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

That happened to my brother. My brother was supposed to be Madison and was not Madison. Madison or Amanda? I can't remember. Something like that. was either Madison or Amanda that my mom picked. I think it was Amanda, now that I'm thinking about it. And ⁓ literally at like, you know, I think we've talked about this before. like one of her last ultrasounds, the tech asked what she was going to name her. And my mom was like, what do mean her?

Ashley (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

I'm having a boy and the tech was like, oh, no, you're not. That's a penis. And it was like, you know, yeah. And not, right,

Kelsie (:

Hahaha

Ashley (:

⁓ no... my god...

Monica (:

That's a penis.

Ashley (:

Well, at she found out in an ultrasound to not like a little bit earlier. Yeah.

Monica (:

Mm-hmm.

Kelsie (:

It's

crazy. I mean, I don't know, both my boys were, they were boys like real early on and like there was no, yeah, there was no speculation. Like Mattis was maybe 12 or 13 weeks in my first ultrasound and it was like, boy.

Monica (:

Yeah, mine too. was like, is a boy right there.

Ashley (:

Mm-hmm.

Nicole (:

Yeah, they

were showers. They were like, hello.

I'm

And normally you can't tell that early, like, at all.

Monica (:

Just right there on the screen.

Kelsie (:

Yeah, no it was like I was like

are you sure I didn't expect even Trevor didn't even go cuz I didn't expect to find anything out and she was like you want another gender and I was like I guess Yeah, it was ⁓ Boy Yeah, I was like she was like I was like are you sure like how she's like no, he's definitely like This is not yeah, there's no yeah nothing lost in translation here

Nicole (:

Yeah. Can you tell? With him, it was very apparent. He was like, here I am.

Monica (:

Yeah.

boy.

There's no mistaking. That's a boy.

Nicole (:

There's no one thinking that.

That's so funny.

Monica (:

⁓

Ashley (:

That's really funny.

Nicole (:

That's so funny. my god. We've said this whole podcast talking about moms. Sorry guys The Mother's Day special this will actually work because this is being released before Mother's Day So one time we're ahead of the game you guys were ahead of it Well you thought about it but

Kelsie (:

This has been a very mom episode, but I guess it's fine. Mother's Day is coming. Yes.

Monica (:

Yeah, it's a it's a happy Mother's Day.

Ashley (:

It's Mother's Day. It's the Mother's Day special. Wow.

Monica (:

The Mother's Day special.

Yeah, exactly.

Ashley (:

Unintentionally, we have done a mother episode... ...for Mother's Day.

Monica (:

It was intentional over here, I thought about it.

Kelsie (:

She's not about it, but we really like, we really spoiled on all of

Monica (:

Yeah.

Ashley (:

We've went with,

Kelsie (:

that.

Ashley (:

yeah, full scent.

Nicole (:

We had

Monica (:

Yeah.

Nicole (:

other topics. This was not supposed to be the only thing we talked about.

Monica (:

right?

Ashley (:

Get us

Monica (:

thank you so much for joining us for another episode of A Little Bit Bothered. Make sure you like, share, subscribe on all the platforms and we will see you guys next week. Have another day.

Ashley (:

Happy Mother's Day!

Kelsie (:

Happy Mother's Day!

Nicole (:

Happy Mother's

Kelsie (:

Bye!

Nicole (:

Bye!

Monica (:

Bye!

Ashley (:

See ya.

Feliz Dia de Madre.

Kelsie (:

Ha!

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