Episode 35
35| Spooky Shenanigans: Ghosts, Ghouls, and Group Chats
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Monica, your Google
Monica (:that's what...
Nicole (:is trying to protect you.
Ashley (:He's scary, right?
Nicole (:I that reaction from Monica.
Monica (:What a legit reaction!
Nicole (:yeah, that's a pretty scary image. That is a pretty-
Monica (:It's like the
eyes were burning into my soul.
Ashley (:It's been a while since I've heard that. It's been a while since I've been here.
Nicole (:Hi, hello. Welcome back, Ashley. Where are your bother bitches? That one over there is Ashley.
Monica (:Welcome back, Ashley. We missed you.
Ashley (:Hi, I'm Ashley.
Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:She's Ashley. β sorry. I'm Kelsie.
Monica (:Yep, I'm Monica. β
Nicole (:I'm Nicole,
again, fucked up intro. This is Two Weeks in a Row, guys.
Ashley (:You
Monica (:One day we will get this. That's fine.
Nicole (:We had it
going good for a while and now we're screwed because I actually like forgot my line. So as soon as it ended, I was like, I know I'm supposed to say something. Yeah. I was about to say, like, I know I'm supposed to say something. I forgot what I was supposed to say because we, it's, literally, because I, we got in a groove of me saying where your bothered bitches, but it didn't come out. It just didn't come out. It just, sorry guys. Mediocre podcast. No, it's fine.
Ashley (:your line of I'm Nicole. I forgot who I am.
yeah.
Monica (:No, that's right. Alright, well, would you like a radio?
Ashley (:Yeah.
Nicole (:let's just move on let's forget it ever happened just carry on, carry on i have no voice anyways, so just carry on
Ashley (:Carry on. Carry on.
Monica (:It's alright, you've got like a Phoebe Buffay sick voice. My sticky shoe! β
Ashley (:Yeah, you kind of do.
Kelsie (:Can
Nicole (:She's
like, and then when she gets better, I smelly smelly cat, what are they to you? Okay, that's it. That's all you get. Thanks. And then I love when she gets better and she's like, my sexy voice.
Kelsie (:you sing Smelly Cat, please?
Ashley (:Yeah
Kelsie (:you
Ashley (:Ha
ha ha!
Kelsie (:That was really good, actually.
Ashley (:one.
Monica (:That was really good.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Monica (:I know.
She's like, scoff on me, sneeze on me.
Ashley (:actually is really terrible.
Nicole (:What's not sexy is the wheeze
that I have when I laugh, so whatever.
Monica (:Right?
It's fine, it's fine. my goodness. It is October. It's spooky season.
Nicole (:Huh.
Ashley (:Everything's
Kelsie (:spooky spooky scary skeletons
Nicole (:Yay!
Monica (:which by the way yesterday it was so funny
so I drove over to Ashley's neighborhood and as we're driving through the neighborhood Jonah goes β does nobody have a calendar here because nobody and so we park and we park in front of Ashley's house and he's like seriously Arden is nobody looking at the calendar and then he goes wait this house gets it and I was like
Nicole (:Cuz there's no decorations.
Monica (:you know that's Ashley's house right? And he's like, oh thank you!
Nicole (:He's like, thank God our friends are normal. my God
Ashley (:But also we have like two decorations up. Nothing's done.
Monica (:Meanwhile, you have more than that.
Kelsie (:Yeah
Monica (:But meanwhile, he's, yeah, he's full on judging and we haven't put a single decoration up.
Nicole (:It's better than nothing!
You should have asked him, do you know how to read a calendar? Do you have a calendar?
Monica (:mean, we've gotten our stuff out of the storage unit, but we have nothing up and he is just like full on judging a neighborhood we don't live in.
Ashley (:Hilarious.
Nicole (:It's really.
That is really, really funny. I really love that for him. I love his little judgy face. So cute. I adore him. He's so funny to me. Well, I have my spooky cup. That's about as Halloween as it gets over here. My little ghosty cup. Got them at Walmart. They come in like a four set. This one's my favorite because he has a weird face. The other one's faces don't look like this. He's got the, this is the weirdest one and I like it.
Kelsie (:haha
Ashley (:Good for him. Yeah.
Monica (:Yes. Right? Yes.
Kelsie (:Yeah
Monica (:He is pretty cute. β
Ashley (:I saw that, that's very cute.
Monica (:Yes, that is a cute one.
Ashley (:Yeah, I like it.
Kelsie (:I love that.
Ashley (:Mmm.
Monica (:Aww.
Kelsie (:The issue is
Nicole (:And that actually brings us to the perfect segue of would you rathers because we're doing spooky edition would you rathers. So who wants to go first?
Monica (:Yes.
Ashley (:Spooky, would you rathers? β
Okay, I have one for little miss Minika
Monica (:Okay, I'm a little nervous.
Nicole (:Minnika!
Ashley (:Actually, I lost
OK, Monica, would you rather spend the night in a haunted asylum or a cursed forest? β
Nicole (:Ew.
Monica (:β
Kelsie (:you
I have
an instant answer. This is taking you too long.
Monica (:No,
I think a forest, a cursed forest. Well, that was my immediate reaction was the forest. And then I was debating, but like, no, forests because an asylum, no, I hate that so much. I hate the asylum so much. I hate, no, like if.
Nicole (:Yeah, so do I. Yeah.
Ashley (:Ooh, do you really?
The Cursed Forest.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Nicole (:What? No, mine's the opposite. I would rather
Kelsie (:I agree. I don't know.
Nicole (:stay in a haunted asylum because what if you leave the cursed forest and you actually are cursed now? Then what, Monica?
Kelsie (:What if you leave the haunted asylum with like...
Nicole (:What?
Ashley (:Yeah.
with a ghost, with a apparition.
Nicole (:Not like, you can, you
Kelsie (:with an insane
Nicole (:can ward
yourself against the ghosts, but I don't know how to ward yourself against a curse, ma'am.
Food for thought.
Kelsie (:No.
Ashley (:Well, when you put it that way...
Monica (:No, but like the
forest just, the forest sounds more manageable. Yeah, it is mine, back off.
Nicole (:I the choice is yours. Okay.
I'm just giving you some insight.
Ashley (:They both are terrible. β
Monica (:Valid it is valid
Kelsie (:I'm out.
Monica (:Yeah, immediate creepy, I hate it so much. Nope, I won't take the forest, I will find a tree, I will climb up and be in the sky outside of the forest. Thank you. That's where I will be.
Ashley (:Okay, she's got a plan.
Nicole (:Okay, you know what? You're allowed
to have your answer. I'll give it to you. I will allow it.
Monica (:The curse doesn't extend to the sky, does it?
Nicole (:No,
it doesn't. It sure doesn't. Clearly not. I swear you're safe.
Ashley (:No, the treetops are definitely not included.
Monica (:Yeah
Ashley (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Speaking of cursed forests, there's this crazy forest in Japan that they literally call like the suicide forest. it's like, I don't know if you guys ever heard of that, but apparently when you go there at night, it's like extra creepy and makes you want to off yourself, which is interesting. Cause I'm like, how does, how does a place have that much control over people? But it has been somewhere where a lot of people go to end their own lives, which is very intriguing. Like what about, what about
Monica (:Yes. Yes.
Ashley (:Hmm.
Monica (:Yeah, it's a very common place.
Nicole (:that land and that area draws people to it in that time of desperation that they might be feeling and like, yeah, and like, does that fed on the energy more and like, you know, creepy, spooky.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Well, now that it has that reputation, people who are doing it are going there.
Monica (:Yeah.
I I could say a lot, but
Ashley (:I don't know.
Monica (:I feel like it'll get our episodes like censored and silenced. But like, there are a lot of like really interesting questions though about that of like what, because just from the culture side of it and like a mental health side of it, like it is very interesting, very sad, but very interesting. Yeah. Okay.
Nicole (:Could be, could be, possibly.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:Bye.
Nicole (:Yeah, very sad, very interesting though.
Monica (:are you ready? Would you rather wake up every night to see a figure standing at the foot of your bed or hear breathing just inches from your ear?
Ashley (:Eww.
Nicole (:I don't really love either of those, but... β
Monica (:Now walk yourself through that one, Miss Curse Girl.
Kelsie (:Peace.
Nicole (:think the actual seeing like an apparition at the bottom of my bed would freak me out more than breathing in my ear. Because I feel like once you hear the breathing in your ear and you wake up, like it's going to go away, like whatever. And then maybe eventually you'll get used to it. Like my husband snoring. But seeing a figure at the bottom of my bed like every single night I think would trip me out too much. So I'm going to go with breathing in the ear. A little ghosty snore.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Mm-hmm. It's the lesser of two evils,
Kelsie (:As someone
Ashley (:I think.
Kelsie (:with sleep paralysis, this is actually terrifying.
Monica (:I don't
know.
Nicole (:Yeah, that's what but like the one sleep paralysis time that I've had I could see the things but I couldn't do anything about it. I feel like hearing the things would not be as alarming but seeing the thing and not and like that would panic me versus hearing the thing. I would rather hear it.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Monica (:Hmm.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Monica (:Interesting, interesting choice.
Nicole (:Okay.
Kelsie and Benny also. Kelsie and Benny. Would you rather your, I'm asking her. I'm asking her. She's part of that family over there. She has to also have a say. β
Kelsie (:Thanks.
Ashley (:Don't ask Benny that question. How dare you? She's a baby.
Monica (:And don't you dare!
Nicole (:Would you rather your reflection sometimes smile back at you or sometimes didn't appear at all? I hate this question. It's disgusting.
Monica (:β
Ashley (:I didn't even read that one. That is, yeah, that's rough.
Nicole (:It's disgusting.
Kelsie (:Bye.
I'm not sure which would be worse.
Monica (:I know.
Nicole (:See, I feel like if my reflection smiled back at me, it would scare me at first, but then if I knew it was gonna happen all the time, I'd just be like, hey, cutie. Like, I would just get used to it.
Ashley (:Ugh.
Kelsie (:Yeah, it's it's like how creepy of a smile is it because is it like that movie smile where they're like
Ashley (:no, that seems creepier. The other one would give me an existential crisis.
Monica (:Right?
Ashley (:those previews are so creepy. No, it's definitely the smile version. No, it's a creepy smile, obviously.
Nicole (:Yeah, like really fucked up, yeah. Or is it just like, or is it just like-
Monica (:Ugh.
Kelsie (:Or is it just like...
Monica (:Right, like is it a genuine smile? Yeah, like is it a real smile or is
Nicole (:Ew! Ew!
Monica (:it,
yeah, it's gonna be a creepy ass smile.
Ashley (:It's, it's
obviously a scary smile.
Kelsie (:but like how inconvenient
would it be if you really needed to see your reflection and like it wasn't there?
Nicole (:And then it just wasn't there.
Yeah. Let's see. That's the, exactly. I don't know. Yeah.
Ashley (:Well, that would make you question
Monica (:Wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait. The reflection's not there or like the smile's not there? the reflection's not there. yeah, that's an inconvenience.
Ashley (:everything, I feel like. Yeah. No, the whole reflection.
Nicole (:No, the reflection, the whole reflection not there is the other half of that question.
See, it's inconvenient. I'd it just smile back at me and be like, okay, so does that mean I look good? Okay, cool, okay, bye. And then just.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
The smile
would be creepy, but the not being there at all might be inconvenient, so I'm choosing the smile.
Nicole (:Yeah, I agree. Yeah,
I'm with you on that one. Although I would hate it every time, but I think after a while you would get used to it. I think you would get used to it after the first few times.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:Yeah, it would be scary. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:I think you would...
I think I would avoid mirrors either way.
Monica (:Eww.
Kelsie (:Can
Nicole (:like
Kelsie (:you imagine
Nicole (:it doesn't matter I don't look at myself anymore.
Kelsie (:walking in front of a mirror and just not seeing yourself like seeing everything around you but you're invisible?
Monica (:Well, and is it
just mirrors or is it like window reflections too that you see it? I hate that.
Nicole (:Vampire!
Ashley (:It said just reflection, so anything I guess.
Nicole (:I think it said mirror.
Kelsie (:Hello.
It said reflection. just says reflection. Wait, does that count for phones? That's not a reflection. That's a picture, right? We're not counting that.
Nicole (:Did it say mirror?
Yeah, that's not, no, it doesn't count, Because at entropy would that be you think you're smiling, but it's actually your reflection smiling at you. And then you take the picture and you're not smiling.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Hehehehehe
Kelsie (:You post it on Instagram and it's like.
Nicole (:It's you making a totally fucked up face like all your double chins are out like... β
Kelsie (:It's like RBF, yeah.
Nicole (:That's Okay, girls, it's your turn to ask
Monica (:Yeah, that would bust with your
Kelsie (:is funny. Okay.
Monica (:head over time.
Ashley (:Yeah!
Kelsie (:Ashley. Would you rather have a ghost that whispers secrets about you to strangers or one that only you can hear crying at night?
Ashley (:Yes.
Monica (:Hahaha!
Ashley (:lol
Kelsie (:It's gossiping about you. Your ghost is gossiping about you.
Nicole (:Is secrets real though? are they like, is it, is it true gossip? Like, that's a good question. Cause if it's like real secrets that you have, then hell no. But if it's like, yeah, if it's like they're starting rumors.
Ashley (:That's a good question, actually.
Monica (:yeah, that is a question.
Ashley (:That's kind of fucked up. Yeah. Well,
Monica (:Just these
random rumors and you're like, did you hear that from the ghost again?
Ashley (:didn't consider that random. Yeah. No, think I'd go with the secret telling ghost because.
I guess it does depend on the secrets. Yeah, the tea.
Kelsie (:She's right though, if they be spilling your dirtiest secrets, like I don't know.
β
Monica (:β
Nicole (:Could be risky, could be risky, could be risky. Would they?
Ashley (:Yeah, but other people would just think they were crazy, you know? Like, you're
the one listening to a ghost. Maybe you have a problem. Yeah.
Monica (:You're gaslighting them.
Kelsie (:Why is this ghost
coming to me with Ashley gossip?
Ashley (:Yeah,
yeah, that's gonna you should look at yourself in that scenario.
Kelsie (:Monica is gonna get
β an uptick in clients.
Ashley (:Yeah. Yeah, I can't I don't want to hear anything crying at night. So no, not that. It couldn't be me.
Monica (:Right?
Yeah.
Kelsie (:Monica's like, actually this
Nicole (:Yeah,
Kelsie (:is
Nicole (:that's pretty bad.
Kelsie (:a conflict of interest, I think your ghost is gossiping about my best friend.
Ashley (:See
ya!
Monica (:I
Nicole (:I'm sorry, I cannot be a therapist.
Monica (:don't think I can, I can't work with you.
Ashley (:You put
it in your initial interview thing, like, do ghosts tell you secrets about a girl named Ashley? Okay. You'll have to find a different therapist.
Nicole (:Well, it does say strangers,
right? It does say a ghost tells strangers all your dirty secrets. Is that what it says?
Monica (:you
Ashley (:strangers?
Monica (:Well that's
even more likely that it could come my way then.
Kelsie (:β it
Nicole (:Because
that... Yeah, if it's strangers then...
Kelsie (:is strangers. that's maybe better though. Well, my secrets to strangers. Yeah
Ashley (:yeah, tell the strangers whatever you want. See, that's not
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:even my problem anymore. That ghost isn't even my problem. That could be happening right now and I wouldn't even know, so.
Nicole (:Yeah, who cares?
Yeah, it's
Kelsie (:Hahaha
Nicole (:true. Very
true. mean, the veil is thinning, you know.
Monica (:Yeah, that's
a point. my gosh, Nicole!
Ashley (:Yeah, well...
Kelsie (:the fails of the name, you know.
Nicole (:Sorry I had to. That's pretty funny. Secret telling ghosts? Like just to random people?
Ashley (:They're bored. They're getting bored.
Nicole (:Because yeah, how would you even know that was happening?
Ashley (:It's a non-issue,
Monica (:Right, do they see the ghost
and they like have this conversation with the ghost or is it just like these whispers in their ears and they're like, man, this girl Ashley. β
Nicole (:You're like, I don't even know
an Ashley, who cares? What the fuck?
Monica (:You
Ashley (:I'll make something useful
Nicole (:If you're gonna whisper shit in my ear, tell me the lottery numbers, fuck.
Ashley (:That's funny.
Nicole (:β
Kelsie (:Well...
Monica (:Yeah, actually, if you were on the receiving
Nicole (:god
Monica (:end of it, that would kind of suck. Like you have a ghost and they just tell you secrets about some random person you don't even know.
Nicole (:about somebody you don't know.
Yeah, that would be horrible. Somebody else's problem. So that's a good choice.
Kelsie (:Yeah, like on on the yeah, this is actually like
Monica (:You
Kelsie (:This whole thing
is probably more annoying to somebody else than Ashley. Like, you're truly cursing somebody else.
Monica (:Right? She's like, talk about me, do it.
Ashley (:Yes, that's that's the whole
yeah Wow, I love spooky with you others we should do those year-round
Kelsie (:They do. They are fun.
Nicole (:Right, I love spooky Woody Rathers too. What else are we
Ashley (:They're Speaking of spooky.
Nicole (:doing for
this spooky episode, guys?
Kelsie (:I'm gonna tell you a wonderful ghost story.
Ashley (:I think we have a story.
Nicole (:β
yay, I love ghost stories. Let's hear it.
Monica (:β yeah.
Ashley (:But for anyone who heard Kelsie's previous scary stories, have cut her off from certain topics. People are going to start logging off. Mass exodus right now.
Kelsie (:This is
Nicole (:Okay, listen, yeah, disclaimer, that was a true crime episode.
That was a true crime episode. This is a spooky story episode, so.
Kelsie (:This is a spoo- it's a real spooky story though. Not a fake spooky story, just disclaimer. β this is about a house in Kansas, in Atchison, Kansas, called the Sally House.
Nicole (:lovely.
okay.
Fun. β
I've heard of the Sally House.
Monica (:I think I have two.
Ashley (:I don't think I have.
Kelsie (:β
Nicole (:Let's hear
it. What? I love this. This is so cool. We have one here in Texas that I could talk about called, β I can't remember what it's called, but it's in Mineral Wells. And I can't remember the actual name of it. I can't. I had it and then it like left. β But it's in Mineral Wells. Yeah. And because of it, I will never go to Mineral Wells. Like not even drive through it. Fuck that town. It's terrifying. Like, no thank you. Really scary.
Ashley (:I don't think so.
Kelsie (:You
Ashley (:Called,
Monica (:You
Kelsie (:Bye!
Ashley (:Perhaps next episode.
Mm.
Monica (:See you.
Nicole (:Yeah, maybe next episode. Okay, tell us about your house in Kansas.
Kelsie (:β yeah.
Monica (:Yeah. All right. Let's hear it.
Kelsie (:Okay. This house was lived in by a doctor. This was a long time ago. I don't have the year. I asked Chachi PT to help me out with some details. β So I didn't forget anything. And he did not put the year, but it was a long, long time ago, a doctor before, you know, modern medicine was real good.
Ashley (:Many, many.
Kelsie (:He had a doctor's office in his house his family and him they lived upstairs doctor's office downstairs, right? So one day this mother brought in her six-year-old daughter named Sally And she was in severe pain severe abdominal pain. So the doctor decided she's having an appendicitis She needs to have her appendix removed like ASAP
Nicole (:I found the year, well, around about. It was just early 1900s, around 1905.
Kelsie (:Okay, I was thinking 19.
Okay, I was gonna say: Nicole (:I got you, I got your back. Did a little research.
Mm.
Mm-mm. Guy was a monster.
Monica (:Hate that.
Kelsie (:Or it didn't it
didn't work anyways, Sally woke up or was never fully under and she was screaming in pain. She thought like the legend is that she died thinking that he was hurting or torturing her because she did die on the table. β Her last memory was the fear and possibly believing she was being harmed by this man. Right.
Ashley (:Mmm.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
How scary for a six-year-old.
Kelsie (:Yeah, it's really sad. So that all comes to this house.
Monica (:Ugh.
Nicole (:Ahem.
Kelsie (:So fast forward several decades because nothing really happened for a while. The Pickmans moved in in the early 1990s, 1992, 1993. And the wife, Deborah, was pregnant. The.
like details on this are kind of like back and forth. Like some people say she had a newborn. Some people say she was pregnant. Either way, she did end up having a newborn in the house. But they, yes, but they would feel strange cold spots, lights flickering and dimming, outspilling noises, timers and appliances turning off and on. β The nursery especially became like a hot spot. The toys and stuffed animals would be rearranged. Teddy bears.
Nicole (:Mm.
Right, small baby.
Kelsie (:you know, toys placed in circles, nursery lights turning on. There was an instance where I believe this was later on in like a ghost hunting thing where a guide dog refused to enter the nursery. β Tony, the husband, the dad, he was the one that experienced most of the β bad things.
Nicole (:you
Ashley (:circles.
Nicole (:Ew.
Ashley (:Mmm.
Kelsie (:He was scratched, β pushed, pinning, restraining him. Yeah. The ghost did not like the men and that continued to be a trend. Yes. As the time went on. Yes. Men would be experiencing the brunt of the haunting. But one...
Nicole (:common.
Monica (:scratched though
Nicole (:It's very Amityville horror.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:But yeah.
Kelsie (:One story says that Tony would wake in the night to find something holding him down, kind of like sleep paralysis.
They so yeah, no, he would be restrained in his sleep and just like hold him down with a figure present. Yes, very creepy. They eventually after like all of his like especially his attacks, they eventually fled the house like they moved out. They're like this is
Monica (:Ugh.
Nicole (:Ew.
Ew, I just got the shivers.
Monica (:I hate that. β
Nicole (:Blech.
Smart, said goodbye. Yeah.
Ashley (:You
Kelsie (:Yeah, they said it escalated beyond what they could live with.
Monica (:Right?
Kelsie (:So now you can tour the house. You can pay to stay there at night.
Nicole (:Mm.
Kelsie (:fun. β
Ashley (:No, thank you.
Monica (:Why?
Nicole (:I
mean, fine for anybody that's not a man, but ew.
Monica (:Eww.
Ashley (:I would never willingly
stay in a house that was haunted. I would not pay for that kind of thing, no way. No, fuck no.
Monica (:What
about the Hans Hotel that we saw in Colorado? Would you stay there?
Nicole (:I would.
Kelsie (:I would probably, you could probably convince me to say anywhere.
Monica (:I think I would only stay there if I was there
Ashley (:Maybe.
Monica (:with you guys.
Nicole (:I would stay there because.
Ashley (:Yeah, if we were all together, only because that one doesn't have a scary haunting, like...
Nicole (:No, and we asked
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:them about their hauntings and none of them were scary. All of them were cute.
Monica (:Although, yeah, although if we did ever do that the entire night, Nicole's just going to tell us that there's curses. Like, whoa, everything.
Nicole (:Stop!
Get out of here. I'd be waiting for... I'd be on edge.
Ashley (:We'd have to have a planned B just in case we needed to leave in the middle of the night.
Monica (:Right? Like, leave
Ashley (:Wow,
Monica (:an escape bag in the car.
Ashley (:yeah. Imagine you're a grown man and you're haunted by a six-year-old girl.
Nicole (:I mean, that is no worse haunting, I don't think.
horrifying. β dude. But poor Sally, I mean she really just truly thought every man was like bad because of her experience. Yeah, she didn't trust any male ever, even in the afterlife, so.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah!
Kelsie (:Yeah, yeah.
Ashley (:I'm gonna try and cut out her appendix.
Monica (:I know.
Kelsie (:Yeah, here she is. She's
Ashley (:Old timey doctors?
Kelsie (:playing
in the nursery. She's playing with the toys that are there because they're they keep toys in there I think from what I've seen
Ashley (:Yeah, poor thing.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Yeah, they do. And you can draw her like pictures and you can bring you can bring her toys. Like most people when they visit the house, they will bring her a toy and like leave it in the nursery. And then she's nice to you. Otherwise. I guess not so much. But yeah, it is sad.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Ashley (:How sad.
Monica (:Understand.
Kelsie (:Some of the random things
that have been reported, which I kind of already said this, multiple visitors and tenants have claimed they were scratched, sometimes deeply by something unseen. Many accounts say the scratches were mostly inflicted on male visitors, which led to the description of Sally as the man-hating spirit. β Physical attacks and aggressive behavior, guests and investigators have reported being shoved, pushed, or physically attacked.
Ashley (:Thank
Kelsie (:These violent feeling incidents are a big reason the house's reputation is that of one of the more hostile hauntings.
Nicole (:Ew.
Kelsie (:β electronics and cameras failing or missing investigators have reported cameras shutting off or going missing after sessions. Some photos are claimed to show orbs a girl's figure or unexplained motion. Visit Acheson hosts a Sally House stories page collecting visitor claims and photos. I'm gonna have to go check out the photos there because they did not know that I was on that website actually, but I did not see the photos so I'm gonna be good checking that out.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Yeah, let's go back and look.
Monica (:Interesting.
Kelsie (:β
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Nicole (:Electronical.
Monica (:Mm-hmm
Nicole (:No reading or speaking.
Kelsie (:I would like to hear those as well. I'm a sucker for a good EVP clip.
Nicole (:yeah, me too.
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Ashley (:You β
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Monica (:Uh-uh.
Nicole (:As the police are like looking around the house, you can hear their voices. It is the creepiest thing. And then too, in the background there, you could see him. So when the police come in, it's what?
Monica (:What?
Kelsie (:guys
Nicole (:Do have a ghost?
Kelsie (:You were talking about that and I literally just heard like a little girl squeal. I swear to god I heard a little girl squeal
Nicole (:my god, Ashley's camera just glitched. Shut the fuck up.
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Ashley (:β man.
Kelsie (:I live too close. I live too close for that, for you to say that to me right now.
Nicole (:leaving all of this in. Sorry listeners. I'm leaving all of this in. Creepio. Just say hey Sally girl, what's up?
Kelsie (:I am not kidding you.
Ashley (:Give her a toy. You better offer her up a toy right now.
Nicole (:You have
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Kelsie (:This is a safe space. There are no men here. You're fine. You're safe. I also had my appendix
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Monica (:my god.
Kelsie (:Intrusive thoughts, just came out.
Ashley (:I'm
Nicole (:And this is why Kelsie's not allowed to go to the haunted houses. She has to stay home. She's not allowed.
Kelsie (:You
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Ashley (:Yeah
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Nicole (:lived but sorry she can't relate okay β my gosh β anyway in the background of like the body cam footage when they go to question him you can see a figure of a small person behind like a door and then the door closes and nobody's back there so I love that shit like the accidental stuff or like the EVPs or like 911 calls that's
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Kelsie (:I do too.
Monica (:But, we.
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Nicole (:I was just gonna bring it up.
no!
Ashley (:Mmm.
Monica (:β
Nicole (:Mmm!
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Yes, and her life went off.
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Kelsie (:But she was dead, like when they responded she had been dead. I
Ashley (:that's weird.
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Monica (:Dispatchers probably have so many creepy stories.
Ashley (:Definitely.
Monica (:Ugh. I know, I was just thinking about that one. Yeah. Yeah.
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Nicole (:That one
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Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:I don't think I heard, I didn't hear that.
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Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:It was, it was north.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:β like war time park, like Memorial park, I guess. And so he was driving down the road and he thought he saw a man standing in the ditch, like bleeding. And so he called the 911 as he like passed it. He was like, shit, what the heck? I think that guy needs help. And he was trying to find a place to turn around. But so while he was doing that, he was calling 911, trying to report what he saw.
Ashley (:Hmm.
Monica (:Mmm.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
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Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Apparently, I guess the thing like flew out of the back of his truck because he like hit the gas really hard. But he said that it didn't look, it was big, first of all, huge. And then its face was like as if you didn't have any features and like the skin was like stretched over the skeletal structure. Like the eyes were just like hollow, like not there, but there was like skin. And he said it was so gross. β And the woman on the phone is like, sir, like, where are you like trying to figure out? She's trying to maintain composure.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Monica (:Gross.
Nicole (:β And he's like that wasn't human that wasn't and so he got to like he drove a little further down the road and the police met him and so he was trying to like describe You know what happened to the police and they drove down there I guess and they didn't see anything. They didn't see the man that was injured They didn't see like anything at all and it just was nothing and then I guess Yeah, so somebody interviewed him like last week
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Ashley (:He must be like scared.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:And I'm like, well, maybe, but if she doesn't have anything to type, because he's not giving her any information except for screaming, maybe she's not typing. and a lot, I, yeah, I agree. You can't always hear them, but I don't know. I think so. A lot of people have, uh, theorized that it is what's called the rake and that's a really scary like entity. And I, don't like that one. That's you're going to have to Google that on your own. Cause I don't want to talk about it. Uh, but it's, it's creepy.
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Monica (:Yeah...
Ashley (:Mm-mm.
Monica (:Yeah, you don't always.
Nicole (:And you know, it could be.
Monica (:I mean, if it's not
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Nicole (:I agree. Yeah.
Kelsie (:But like, what's the point of lying if you're not even gonna reveal
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Ashley (:Right.
Nicole (:That's always my thing.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:If you're worried about, and you could tell it's him in the interview because, they show like literally the back corner of his head. They're just showing the interviewer. β And you could tell it's him because the voice is the same. What?
Monica (:Well, Hang on, wait. So who
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Ashley (:my god, I looked up the thing. Wow, it's fucking scary. Holy shit. I looked it up and I clicked the wiki and I the picture just like really put me right over the edge.
Nicole (:you looked up the rake. β
Monica (:β
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Monica (:Yeah, I've never thought about it, because...
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Yeah. Well, that's why I was curious about it is because it's like,
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Nicole (:Right.
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Kelsie (:Ew, he looks like an alien.
Monica (:Okay, well dang it, now I have to look too.
Ashley (:When I typed in the rake, it came up the rake monster and then monster wiki came up and what a scary place to be.
Kelsie (:You must not Google spooking.
Nicole (:You're even-
Monica (:you
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Nicole (:Monica, your Google
Monica (:that's what...
Nicole (:is trying to protect you.
Ashley (:He's scary, right?
Nicole (:I that reaction from Monica.
Monica (:What a legit reaction!
Nicole (:yeah, that's a pretty scary image. That is a pretty-
Monica (:It's like the
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Ashley (:Yeah, it's not good.
Nicole (:It's
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Monica (:don't like that thing. How do I get
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Nicole (:Yeah, he's pretty spooky. I don't like it. That's why I'm like, I don't want to talk about it. Like, like I said, said, guys.
Monica (:don't like that.
Ashley (:Dislike.
Kelsie (:Nicole's like, said I didn't want to talk about it. Fuck.
Ashley (:Well, now we're talking about it.
Monica (:I swear he just hit the back button and I was like, okay, I'm good
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Ashley (:It said mountainous and hilly areas, yeah.
Monica (:Ugh, I hate that so much. β
Ashley (:You
Monica (:Shit.
Nicole (:Your algorithm.
Monica (:any day.
Kelsie (:So if you guys
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Monica (:Ugh.
Ashley (:You
Kelsie (:Yeah, I won't ask you to go at night. I know you won't want to.
Monica (:You
Ashley (:I would go. We went to other scary places.
Monica (:I would, yeah.
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Kelsie (:Yeah.
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Monica (:typical six-year-old behavior.
Ashley (:Yeah.
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Kelsie (:Do you want to go to the Kansas State Penitentiary?
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Ashley (:Ew.
Monica (:Can we go hang out in the forest by your house instead?
Kelsie (:I don't know the lore behind that one, but...
Nicole (:Now, that's
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Kelsie (:Penitentiary.
Monica (:Nicole's frozen.
Kelsie (:you
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Gives me the heebie-jeebies. So I don't know. About the same, I think, as a haunted asylum. β Also though, I think if I'm with people, I'll probably, it's, if I'm with friends, it'll feel more like we're going to a haunted house.
Ashley (:Mm.
Kelsie (:More than a haunted asylum or less?
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Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Like a fun,
Kelsie (:It'll
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Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:for funsies. Just don't think too hard about it.
Kelsie (:Yes, some light love, yeah.
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Nicole (:They do always
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Monica (:Yeah, we set the tone.
Ashley (:Excellent. Yeah.
Kelsie (:There was a
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Nicole (:Yes, it wasn't as graphic as the last time.
Monica (:Yeah, this... Yes.
Ashley (:not quite as graphic.
Monica (:my gosh, I will forever be scarred by that episode.
Nicole (:Yeah, I think our listeners will be too.
Kelsie (:as you should be. We should
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Monica (:I know.
Nicole (:We
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Kelsie (:Honestly, for for how fucking
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:crazy that was, I'm sorry to bring this back up. But like, I can't believe it's not really more like
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Kelsie (:more of a famous case, you know? Cause
Nicole (:Well known. Yeah.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:it's,
I mean, maybe, maybe shit and fucking shit fucking cult be all around be doing crazy stuff like that and we just don't ever hear about it. But if so, that's crazy.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Could be.
mean, I don't know. Cults are very interesting like territory to breach when you're looking into them because some of them are just like weird and then some of them are really like dark and scary.
Monica (:Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:If you're new here,
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:we're referencing the spooky episode. Well, not a spooky episode from last year, a true crime. Unless you like cults. If you're really into that stuff, you might find it interesting. But if you are not into that stuff, don't go listen to it. It's very bad. But that's just what we're referencing is a cult.
Monica (:It's not worth going back, I promise. It was horrific. It's the one episode where it-
Ashley (:Don't listen to it.
Nicole (:Probably don't do it. Yes, if you're into cults.
Monica (:Okay, but it's horrific.
Nicole (:Content warning. Right. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah. But
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Kelsie (:I won't. I demand it, actually.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm. β
Nicole (:Yeah,
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Kelsie (:If you like that stuff, you'll you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just guard. Yeah, I told
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:I gave about 10 warnings when I told the story. Guard yourself if you can't handle it. Get get out of the kitchen.
Monica (:You did. You did.
Nicole (:Yeah.
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Kelsie (:No, no, no, no. I'd say
Monica (:Absolutely not, my gosh.
Kelsie (:most
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Nicole (:We don't. Right.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:my God,
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Monica (:Haha!
Nicole (:hehe
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Ashley (:right
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Monica (:You never know what you're gonna get. Are you gonna get a spooky ghost story? Are you gonna get, you know, buttholes? Am I the asshole? Like, what are you gonna get?
Kelsie (:Well...
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Ashley (:Yeah, so yes, don't listen around children.
Kelsie (:Tick.
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Ashley (:Yeah. It might have been that one. Yeah.
Nicole (:Buttles. Buttles.
Kelsie (:just could go any way, could go any direction.
Nicole (:So funny. Could
Ashley (:A little bit
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Monica (:Right?
Nicole (:go any direction.
Kelsie (:But to lighten the mood from the ghost stories, I figured we could finish off with a game of Bothered or Unbothered. We haven't played that in a while.
Monica (:Ooh,
yes, we have it.
Ashley (:Okay.
Nicole (:yeah, let's
do it.
Kelsie (:So
if we need a refresher, I'm going to rapid fire things that may bother you or not. β So this is going to be all friendship.
Monica (:Yes.
Yes.
Ashley (:Okay.
Mmm.
Monica (:Mmm, okay.
Ashley (:Spicy.
Kelsie (:based.
β I don't know this has ever happened to us, but they're the first time for everything. When someone in the group chat screenshots your message and sends it back to the group by accident.
Ashley (:Men.
Nicole (:I mean,
I would be I would be bothered because I'm like, what are you doing? You have it. You owe us an explanation.
Ashley (:It depends on the screenshot.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:It depends on the screenshot. I have sent Patrick screenshots before of like something funny. It really depends.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Nicole (:You owe us an explanation.
Kelsie (:I was about to say, funny stuff. Yeah. Funny stuff. I've,
Nicole (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:yeah,
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Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:but also like it's still,
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Monica (:Yeah, like, what are you doing, ma'am?
Kelsie (:Yeah, like.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah. What you doing with that?
Ashley (:Yeah. A different group chat though, I probably would be bothered. This group chat, I probably wouldn't be bothered.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Monica (:Yes.
Ashley (:A different one though, I would.
Monica (:Yes.
Kelsie (:I pretty, yeah, I'd say in
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Nicole (:Shady? Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah, yes, yes.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Monica (:I mean, if I'm
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Ashley (:Yeah.
Nicole (:It's going, people
Kelsie (:I'm gonna share it publicly so you're gonna know soon anyways.
Nicole (:are seeing it, regardless.
Monica (:You
Ashley (:Yeah.
Nicole (:That took me a second to process because I was like didn't we just literally screenshot a section of our chat yesterday and send it back to the group chat because we were talking about augers and ogres
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're screenshotting to ourselves all the time.
Kelsie (:We constantly reference ourselves. full of our, we're pretty full of ourselves.
Nicole (:Because we're hilarious. We're full of ourselves.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:β This one this one this will be interesting when a friend leaves the group chat mid drama this happens sometimes And it's no it's not on purpose, but sometimes I'm like where the fuck did they go?
Nicole (:So yeah.
Monica (:yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah. Lothered. Lothered.
Nicole (:β what is the drama? What does the drama
Monica (:It does bother me, but.
Nicole (:entail? Are we having drama within the group chat? And then we're just like, bye. Or like, or, β okay. That, yeah.
Ashley (:Anything. Even if you're just in the middle of a conversation and someone gets pulled away, it's like, bothered. Get back in here.
Monica (:I don't think, it doesn't matter.
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Monica (:Yeah, if we're like in it,
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Kelsie (:Yeah, it's like I
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Ashley (:Yeah, this
Nicole (:Yeah,
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Ashley (:is priority one.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Monica (:Like it's
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Nicole (:it
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Yeah, it's like where, where did you go? Where did you go? It's so funny. Sometimes,
Ashley (:Yes.
Kelsie (:I'm a spiraler, so I'm like, why did you drop out of this? What did I say?
Ashley (:Where did I go wrong?
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Monica (:Yeah.
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Nicole (:It's really funny.
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Ashley (:oof
Nicole (:It's like, oops, I'm so sorry. It's so funny. It is the worst timing. Yeah, bothered, of course, because I was taking that question as like the group chat itself is having drama and then you just remove yourself from the group chat and you're like, bye bitches.
Monica (:Worst timing. β
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Nicole (:That's what I was taking that question as, because I was like, β yeah, what the fuck? I'd be calling your ass the fuck bitch. But that's not what the question meant.
Kelsie (:β
Monica (:I
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Ashley (:that would also bother me.
Monica (:Yeah.
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Kelsie (:this might be me.
Nicole (:Yeah. No, that's why I'm like, duh, would be bothered,
Kelsie (:No, yeah.
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Nicole (:but no.
Ashley (:You
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:A lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah, that was my doing. I was fighting, you guys weren't, I was.
Ashley (:my god, was that the recording one?
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:I was right before we started the podcast. Yeah, it was all in my feelings. That is funny. But I will say we all handled that very maturely, including myself. it wasn't really... I think of that all the time.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah, that's funny.
Monica (:Yeah
Kelsie (:Okay.
Ashley (:Good times.
Kelsie (:Yes we did. We did.
Monica (:We did, everyone's swell though, I do.
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Ashley (:you
Kelsie (:you
Nicole (:Yeah. Yep.
Kelsie (:β
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Nicole (:I know. Okay, anyway.
Ashley (:Yeah,
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Nicole (:Yeah, what does that mean? What is rapid fire?
Kelsie (:This is Monica's
Ashley (:What's rapid
Monica (:What is that?
Kelsie (:whole
Ashley (:fire?
Kelsie (:life, but friends who trauma dump but never ask how you are. the life of a therapist.
Nicole (:As a therapist,
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Monica (:No, it's fine. They don't need to ask me. We're good.
Kelsie (:Yeah, I'm pretty as a whole all
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Nicole (:Yeah, me too.
Also
Monica (:Hmm.
Nicole (:though,
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Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah, I was about to say you don't have to ask
Ashley (:Okay.
Kelsie (:me
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Nicole (:I'm going tell you, Ray, we're
Monica (:Right? Yeah, I'm gonna join you. Yeah.
Nicole (:just going to trauma-dump everybody's trauma vomiting. It's not even trauma dumping. It's trauma vomiting on each other all the time, constantly.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Monica (:It's true. It's true.
Kelsie (:β We're about to
it's gonna get spicy and it's not gonna be about us. Okay when someone says you've changed but you just grown
Ashley (:Ugh.
Nicole (:Unbothered, unbothered, so unbothered because I really don't care. I have changed. That's a good thing and I should change and so should everybody else. And you know what I mean? Like if you don't like that, then that's on you, not on me.
Monica (:Ugh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kelsie (:β friends who only text when they need something.
Nicole (:Bothered. Bothered.
Ashley (:Ugh, bothered.
Monica (:that bothers me so much. I hate that.
Ashley (:That's not a friend. Don't call him a friend.
Monica (:Yeah, that's not a friend.
Kelsie (:when a friend takes offense to you setting boundaries.
Monica (:Bothered-ish.
Ashley (:Bothered?
Nicole (:bothered
because I should be able to set boundaries as a friend. Again, not your friend if you can't set boundaries with somebody.
Kelsie (:Yeah. When you're best friends, I don't think I've...
Monica (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:where they can't respect your boundaries. Not a friend.
Monica (:Yeah.
Ashley (:If you're even
setting boundaries in the first place, really, like, where did you go, Arai? Yeah.
Nicole (:Probably not a friend. Yeah, because we have zero boundaries.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah, like if you have to, if you have to like
be really clear to like paint it out, like they've already pushed it to begin with and now, and now they can't even hear it. Not okay.
Ashley (:You probably already have a problem. Yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
when your friend doesn't like or comment on your post, but they like everyone else's.
Ashley (:Bothered.
Monica (:Yeah. β
Nicole (:bothered. What the fuck?
Excuse me. I'm screenshotting and sending it to you. I'm screenshotting and sending it to you and fighting. Starting a fight.
Kelsie (:β
Monica (:That is definitely one we've had, right.
Kelsie (:When
you guys are gonna, you're gonna like this one. When someone posts my bestie and it's not you. Bothered.
Monica (:Like my stuff, bitches!
Ashley (:gathered.
Monica (:I'm
Nicole (:Mother, it's a mother. How dare you have other friends?
Ashley (:The nerve.
Monica (:She was my friend first.
Kelsie (:when you find out your friend muted you.
Ashley (:Bothered?
Nicole (:β
bothered, excuse me.
Kelsie (:Bothered, but I've done it.
Monica (:Yeah. Wait, to us? Have you muted us? β I was like, what? Yeah.
Ashley (:I've done it too. No, no.
Kelsie (:No. No.
Nicole (:Okay, so I've done it to non-friends. I'm,
Ashley (:Actually,
Kelsie (:I've
Ashley (:I don't know if I've done it people I would really consider friends.
Kelsie (:done it to people that I'm kind of friends with. People that I could consider friends, kind of, yeah. I've done it to them. I've muted them for reasons,
Nicole (:what?
Ashley (:Kind of.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:funny.
Monica (:Yes, I have two.
Nicole (:muted them for reasons.
Kelsie (:Oh,
and on Facebook, I'd be muting up a hell of lot of people. Facebook's wild over there. Facebook is lawless. You've muted them so hard, what?
Ashley (:I muted them so hard I don't even have them anymore.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:β
Yeah.
Ashley (:I've muted people on Facebook and Instagram so hard I don't even have the apps anymore.
Nicole (:Hurry up, that's true. She muted everybody. See, I don't mute people. I guess I have muted people, but because of like, not necessarily because they're my friends, but because I'll get stuck in like a comparison trap. And I don't wanna compare myself to people β that aren't actually like even in my daily life or trying to make me a better person. So then I'll just mute them, bye. Don't need to, I don't need to see you.
Kelsie (:yeah. Ashley does the ultimate mute.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Monica (:Right?
Yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah, yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Monica (:Yes.
Yes, I've done that.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
this one's good.
Nicole (:I guess they are friendly with me, but...
Monica (:But I think if somebody, yeah, I think if somebody who I really did feel like was a good friend muted me, I would just have questions. I would feel a little bit bothered, but I would have questions.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:You probably wouldn't know.
Ashley (:I would be bothered.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I would just ask. Yeah, you wouldn't know.
Kelsie (:You wouldn't know.
Monica (:If I found out, I don't know. Well, actually that's true. Cause if I did find out that there was probably some like crap talking or something is how I'm picturing it going down. So then there's, there is a problem there.
Ashley (:I know, how would you find out?
Nicole (:Hmm
Ashley (:Mm-hmm. β
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Kelsie (:What about when a friend watches all your stories but never replies to your texts? That does it. That irritates me a little bit. I get it, I get it, because I know I've done it. I'm a bad texter sometimes. Like, I fully intend to reply and then I have the brain of Dory and I forget.
Nicole (:Ugh.
Monica (:β It does irritate me.
Nicole (:That's annoying. Bothered.
Monica (:Yeah, yeah.
I am too.
Nicole (:So
this is funny because you know what I saw? I saw a TikTok the other day of somebody said, when a friend sends me a message on WhatsApp and I don't respond, but then they send me a message on TikTok and I respond, ha ha ha ha. That just means I'm asleep on WhatsApp, but I'm awake on TikTok. And I thought that was really funny because I was like, yeah, sometimes it be like that. Sometimes it's like, I don't feel like switching over to the other apps. If you message me on here, I will absolutely respond.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:Yeah, if I'm in the middle of something on Instagram, I'm not switching. If I'm in the middle of something on TikTok, like, that is where, yeah.
Nicole (:I respond to the other chat. Right. So
Monica (:Right?
Nicole (:it can kind of go both ways. It depends because also like we do this. I also do this with my best friend. We have different conversations on every app. So it depends on what's happening. Like, I don't know. But if they're watching my stories and they're looking at me, they're not they're also not responding to my stories.
Ashley (:yeah. Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Yes, that's true.
Nicole (:and they're not responding to my text messages. It's like, bitch, I know you see me. Hello, I'm here. You see me? I see you.
Monica (:You see me? Right?
Kelsie (:Did I see you?
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Monica (:I don't know what it is about text messages too, because there's just something about it where it feels like more work to respond to it. And like, yeah, it's true. And there's, right? And there's times where I will intentionally leave it unread because I know if I read it, I'm going to forget that it exists and I will forget to respond.
Nicole (:It does, why?
Ashley (:It's like text messages are turning into phone calls, like how you don't wanna take a
phone call, know? Now text is like, this is too serious. Why is this so formal?
Nicole (:Yep.
Monica (:but I
will see the little like number there and I'm just like, okay, I'll get to it.
Nicole (:I'll get to that when I have the brain power.
Ashley (:This literally
Nicole (:Yeah.
Ashley (:reminded me that my mom texted me yesterday at six o'clock and I never texted her back, I just texted her.
Kelsie (:I do it all the- I am really bad about it, I can't say that I'm bothered by that because I know I do it to people, like I am so sorry. It happened to- I've done it to Erika multiple times, Erika if you're listening girl. It is- I know, like- It's not- It does seem to happen to Erika though, I'm just like- I'm a bad texter. I'm a bad getterbacker. Especially if I'm doing something, like if I'm in the car or like I'm dealing with my kids, like, it's wiped from my fucking slate.
Nicole (:Sorry mom!
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Nothing against you. It's just we're...
Monica (:Yeah, I am too.
Ashley (:Some people are bad texters.
Nicole (:Me too.
Kelsie (:and I'll remember like two weeks later and I'll be like, I need to message so and so. And then I remember at an inconvenient time and then it's two weeks later more than I'm like, honestly, is it an insult if I text back now? Should I just pretend like I never?
Nicole (:Okay.
Monica (:Yeah.
Yeah.
Ashley (:Mm-hmm.
Nicole (:Again, yep.
and then you spiral. Yeah,
Ashley (:I think we'll just never talk again.
Nicole (:I think we're just.
Kelsie (:So
anyways, it's not Never just never assume that if I don't answer you back that I have a problem I trust me if I if I have a problem You're probably gonna know about it if I don't have a problem Then I'm not ignoring you. I'm just Bad, I'm a really bad texter. I'm just bad. I'm a bad texter
Nicole (:I think I just accidentally ruined the friendship.
Monica (:That's how it ended.
Ashley (:I'm just bad. Bad. β
Nicole (:β
Monica (:Just the ad. Just
the ad. Yes.
Nicole (:I think that is a lot of us though in this this era that we live in where technology is like taking over our lives and at the forefront of our brains all the time and you know I think we're our brain we use our brains a little less I think sometimes so
Monica (:Yeah.
Well, that and there's just so many
ways for people to have access to 24 seven that I think on both sides of it, it's like if you're receiving it, it's just sometimes you just don't want to go to it. Right. But then if you're the one sending the message, there's also kind of the sense of like, but like, I know you saw it and you know, there is, think.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Kelsie (:It's also
like how convenient is it for me to reply? Because like you guys, I can reply in any format. I can reply text, voice message, video. Like I can do anything and I know that that's acceptable. Some people don't want voice notes. And so I'm like, if my only option is to reply right now with a voice note and I'm not sure that you're cool with voice notes, like I'm not answering back right now. And you know what I'm saying?
Monica (:Yeah!
Ashley (:Mm-hmm. That's true.
Nicole (:huh.
Monica (:Yes.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah, I agree.
Monica (:Yeah. No, seriously, because sometimes a voice note is just like, it sounds so sad, but it's far less mental, like, power to just record talking than it is to like, have to type it out.
Ashley (:Yeah.
Nicole (:easier.
Ashley (:so much easier.
Nicole (:Mm-hmm.
Kelsie (:Do know the
Ashley (:It
Kelsie (:relief?
Ashley (:is.
Kelsie (:feel, Jayden did this to me, or like one time I messaged Jayden, she's like, I hope it's okay if I send a voice note, and I'm like, girl, did we just become best friends? It's always okay to send a voice note.
Monica (:Yeah.
Nicole (:Yeah, please.
I rather. I rather. Yeah. Yeah. I do appreciate the ask though. Like I don't I think we've I think I've chatted about my friend Nicola on here before and she's very voice note like heavy. And I think when her and her when her and I first started chatting, she was like, I'm so sorry, but I'm a voice note girly like I can't not voice. And I was like, girl, it's okay. I love it. So did throw like, please. I know.
Monica (:Seriously. Voice notes all day. Yeah.
Ashley (:Excuse me.
Kelsie (:Can we get Nikola on here actually? That just
came to my mind. I think that would be great.
Nicole (:Yeah,
Ashley (:She would be fun.
Nicole (:I haven't, need to check in. I need to check in on her. I haven't talked to her in a while. But shout out to Nicola. Hi.
Monica (:Yeah.
Kelsie (:You would be fun.
Nicole (:Miss you girl, miss you. I love a good voice note.
Monica (:Alright, you got any others Kelsie?
Kelsie (:No, that's pretty much it. The rest are kind of lame.
Nicole (:Cool, cool,
Monica (:Those are some good ones.
Ashley (:Okay.
Nicole (:I think that one was a good one to end on.
Ashley (:Excellent. Yeah.
Monica (:Yes,
yes those were those were some good ones. All right well it is spooky seasoned so I'm sure we will have some more spooky Halloween stuff in the episodes to come.
Nicole (:Yay!
Spooky
Halloween!
Ashley (:next episode whenever we feel like it.
Nicole (:Right. β Whenever we get to it,
Monica (:Right this week next
Ashley (:you
Monica (:Okay. Well, on that note, join us for the next episode when we will get into some more spooky stuff. We are also on Patreon, so that is a new addition for us. We do not have any exclusive content yet, but come and hang out with us over there. There's some group chat. Group chat. cannot even talk.
Nicole (:Woo.
Ashley (:Woot woot!
Nicole (:You can
actually be part of the group chat on Patreon. We just haven't figured it out yet. So bear with us, give us a little bit of time. Yeah. We don't, we don't know exactly what's going to be exclusive over there. What's not. haven't nailed that down yet. We have, we're good at. Yeah.
Ashley (:Wow.
Kelsie (:It's all free right now. There's nothing you have to pay for. It's just, yeah.
Monica (:Yes, it's our regular content.
Yeah, we don't know what we're doing yet. Like we don't, we don't know what we're doing as per usual, but come and join the community, come hang out, come
Ashley (:Chalker!
This is our
Monica (:get
Ashley (:MO. Yeah.
Monica (:it on the ground level with us.
Nicole (:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good at winging things.
Kelsie (:Yeah.
Nicole (:So just come wing it with us over there.
Monica (:Yes. Well, thank you for listening
Ashley (:Yes.
Monica (:to our first spooky episode. If you listened, please make sure you share to all of your socials and tag us and let us know what you think. Like, share and subscribe. That helps spread the news about the podcast and helps us expand the group chat. So stay tuned and we will see you guys next week. Hopefully, perhaps we'll see. Bye.
Nicole (:oooo
Ashley (:me feel like it. Okay, bye! Later!
Nicole (:when we feel like it. Bye! Bye!
Kelsie (:Bye!